Acid/Base Weight Change: Melting Point Increase?

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The discussion centers on the weight changes of acid and base samples over time, specifically whether acids lose weight and bases gain weight when left to sit. It concludes that weight changes can be attributed to evaporation of acids like HCl and the absorption of moisture by bases due to their hydroxide ions. The melting point increase associated with weight gain is linked to enhanced intermolecular forces. Key principles such as Lavoisier's conservation of mass and the concept of molality are also highlighted.

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Suppose u let an acid sample sit for a week, does it lose weight after a period of time? and a base sample gain weight after a period of time? why is like this? and when a sample gains weight, the melthing point rises. is it because of the increased intermolecular forces? thanks
 
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very strange - never heard of this
 
Your logic is interesting. You should better consider equilibrium phenomenon; and Lavosier's very principle. An isolated system neither loses nor gains weight.

Your query reminds me of water absorption capacity of bases; as hydroxide ions are very powerful bases, hydrogen bonding may be excessive to absorb large quantities of water. Gaseous-originated mineral acids like HCl may lose weight as some of HCl evaporates away.
 
nemzy said:
Suppose u let an acid sample sit for a week, does it lose weight after a period of time? and a base sample gain weight after a period of time? why is like this? and when a sample gains weight, the melthing point rises. is it because of the increased intermolecular forces? thanks

I'd suspect the sample is either evaporating or absorbing moisture from the air.
 
when a sample gains weight, the melthing point rises
ARE you saying When Molecular mass increases(similar compounds)melting point rises?
{ethane,ethane,propane }

In case of absorption/evaporation of water,there is a change in Freezing point/Boiling point in non ideal solutions which is proportional to molality.
 
what is molality
 
Weight gain? Sure, picking up water --- and, carbon dioxide. The second item is the melting point booster.
 
This is a lot of speculation about a "sample" we know very little about. Questions: What compound is it? Under what conditions have it been stored? Any further info would help. As for the question about molality, it's moles of solute per kg of solvent, of a solution.
 
Molality:no of moles of solute /kg of solution.
 
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poolwin2001 said:
Molality:no of moles of solute /kg of solution.
Nope, it's moles solute/kg solvent. See: http://www.chemistry-dictionary.com/Molality
 
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