Actions of subatomic particles while under observation

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of subatomic particles when observed, particularly the notion of intelligence or intentionality attributed to these particles. Participants explore theoretical implications of quantum mechanics, focusing on the wave-particle duality and the nature of observation in quantum physics.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that there may be a form of "slight" intelligence at the subatomic level, proposing that particles react in ways that could imply some form of awareness or interaction beyond current understanding.
  • Another participant disagrees, asserting that the behavior of particles is governed by consistent laws of physics, and that attributing intelligence to them is unwarranted.
  • A participant questions the specific phenomena being referred to and requests clarification on particular experiments related to the topic.
  • Several participants use analogies, such as a thermos, to illustrate their point that attributing intelligence to physical objects is misleading, emphasizing that objects operate according to physical laws rather than conscious decision-making.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is clear disagreement among participants regarding the attribution of intelligence to subatomic particles. Some participants support the idea of intelligence, while others firmly reject it, leading to a contested discussion without consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying interpretations of quantum phenomena and the implications of observation, with some relying on analogies that may not fully capture the complexities of quantum mechanics. The discussion remains speculative and theoretical, with no specific experiments cited to ground the claims.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring quantum mechanics, the philosophy of science, or those curious about the implications of observation in physics.

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excuse me if i get diffrent terminologies confused with others that are not correct. I am not a physicist, nor student. i am just intrigued by the notion of things out of our current boundaries of perceptions as human beings without the help of tools.
Hi my name is tim. I have a new found like of the inner workings of or universe , and am currently considering which field i should go into.

As of now I am considering computer science. But to me, in my opinion, we as in humans created computers, therefore the science is technically already in a sense there,, already. I am more intersetsed in those actualities we didnt create.

My question is... The spectacular experience observed when observing particles on the quantom level, as in things appearing as waves until observed amuses me. There seems to be some form of "slight" intellegience happining at the sub atomic level. Not saying it can't talk or interact on a sentience level. But perhaps it reacts through diffrent properties confined in a certain criterion, not yet discovered perhaps not currently perceivable due to current technology abilities etc.

The is completetly theoretical and i would love to have sum feedback about this phenomena of displacement.. Please elaborate, and please correct me where I am wrong. I am not here to show anyone up or anything. I am only here for knowledge, and seeing how i have no friends that are physicist, i would love to hear from those that are.Tthank you
 
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Physics4gangsters said:
There seems to be some form of "slight" intellegience happining at the sub atomic level.

I don't agree. Objects interact through a set of laws that don't change, and just because the laws are strange or non-intuitive doesn't mean that there is some sort of intelligence behind them.
 
Physics4gangsters said:
There seems to be some form of "slight" intellegience happining at the sub atomic level.
If the electron could speak we would not understand it!
 
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Physics4gangsters said:
this phenomena of displacement

What phenomena are you talking about? Can you describe a specific experiment that you have questions about?
 
I think you are seeing signs of intelligence that just isn't there. It's like a thermos. How does it know to keep hot things hot and cold things cold? How does it know?
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
How does it know to keep hot things hot and cold things cold?
Like the McDLT?
 
But if I switch sides in a McDLT carton, it still works! How does it know?
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
I think you are seeing signs of intelligence that just isn't there. It's like a thermos. How does it know to keep hot things hot and cold things cold? How does it know?
Thermoconsciousness? Interpretive physics?
PeroK said:
If the electron could speak we would not understand it!
Are you pulling his string?
 

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