Acute severe Hepatitis in Children, theories as to causation

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The discussion centers on the recent outbreak of acute severe hepatitis in children, exploring various theories regarding its causation. Participants examine potential links to adenovirus, the impact of Covid-19 lockdowns on immunity, and the role of co-infections, while referencing ongoing research and reports from health organizations.

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  • Some participants highlight the "Covid isolation theory," suggesting that lockdowns may have weakened children's immunity due to reduced exposure to pathogens.
  • Others point out that adenovirus, particularly Adenovirus 41, has been reported in some cases, but caution that current evidence does not strongly support it as a causative agent.
  • A participant notes that many affected children may be immunocompromised, indicating a potential for complex interactions among multiple factors rather than a single cause.
  • Research teams from London and Glasgow propose that infants exposed later than normal due to Covid restrictions may have missed early immunity to adenovirus and adeno-associated virus two (AAV2), which could contribute to the outbreak.
  • There is a call for larger studies to investigate the role of AAV2 and its seasonal circulation in relation to pediatric hepatitis cases.

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Participants express multiple competing views regarding the causation of the hepatitis outbreak, with no consensus reached on a definitive cause. The discussion remains unresolved, with ongoing research needed to clarify the situation.

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Participants acknowledge limitations in current evidence and the complexity of the situation, emphasizing the need for further research to understand the interactions between various viruses and the health status of affected children.

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Summary: Recent world wide acute hepatitis outbreak in children and possible etiology.

I've watched these cases with much interest lately, particularly since some of the possible vectors are being studied and identified.

As the theories are being explored as to the cause, or causes of the outbreak, I'm interested in, if the "Covid isolation theory" mentioned has much traction in the world wide medical community.

From: https://www.theguardian.com/society...22-causes-mystery-cases-in-children-explainer
"Director of the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, Dr Andrea Ammon, told reporters during a briefing on Tuesday that another hypothesis being investigated is whether lockdowns may have weakened children’s immunity due to lower exposure to pathogens."
Not certain if the conference link copied correctly, if not here's a backup link.

The outbreak seems to be spreading rapidly throughout the world with a few notable exceptions, the Uk being the worst hit so far.

Although the Adenovirus connection does seem a possible link, it seems likely there will prove to be contributing factors involved.

https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/2022-DON376
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/liver-disease-mystery-1.6431872
https://www.reuters.com/business/he...-hepatitis-children-reported-ecdc-2022-04-26/

Thanks, Scott
 
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A somewhat dated but thorough report from the UK.
https://assets.publishing.service.g...8/acute-hepatitis-technical-briefing-1_4_.pdf

Here in the US, the statistics are looking worse.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/06/health/hepatitis-kids-cdc-update/index.html

"The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Friday that it's investigating 109 cases of severe and unexplained hepatitis in children in 25 states and territories that may be linked to a worldwide outbreak.
Among them, 14% needed transplants, and five children have died.
Nearly all the children -- more than 90% -- needed to be hospitalized."
 
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The reason for this comment is that some news sources are trying to finger point at a cause:
Adenovirus 41 has been reported in somepatients, so some people may think that it represents a cause. As research stands at the moment (2022/5/7) it is not very good evidence for causation. Adenovirus 41 (and some other Adenovirus quasispecies) are a common cause of diarrhea in children. New research may change this view on a cause.

Just a quick comment.
 
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jim mcnamara said:
The reason for this comment is that some news sources are trying to finger point at a cause:
Adenovirus 41 has been reported in somepatients, so some people may think that it represents a cause. As research stands at the moment (2022/5/7) it is not very good evidence for causation. Adenovirus 41 (and some other Adenovirus quasispecies) are a common cause of diarrhea in children. New research may change this view on a cause.

Just a quick comment.
I do hate to cite a news production when it comes to details, I'm not finding much current info (not even on the CDC site) so I settled on CNN (whom ironically is quoting the CDC). Selling news must pay better than selling facts.

I do agree with you on the Adenovirus 41 causation theory, people (especially news writers) always seem to look for "the cause", rather than "the causations". I read that in many cases the children are immunocompromised, that, if proven to be a factor, combined with any of the other possible causes could make for a very complex puzzle. Hopefully, new research will put together the pieces of the puzzle quickly.

At this point, it has all the appearances of comorbidity rather than a single cause, that's just a thought but I'd be surprised if the cause is a single element rather than a combination of factors.
On the bright side, I did hear that Covid vaccine was finally officially ruled out as a cause...
 
The two teams of researchers, from London and Glasgow, say infants exposed later than normal - because of Covid restrictions - missed out on some early immunity to:
  • adenovirus, which normally causes colds and stomach upsets
  • adeno-associated virus two (AAV2), which normally causes no illness and requires a coinfecting "helper" virus - such as adenovirus - to replicate

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-61269586

Prof Emma Thomson, who led the University of Glasgow research, said there were still many unanswered questions. "Larger studies are urgently needed to investigate the role of AAV2 in paediatric hepatitis cases.

"We also need to understand more about seasonal circulation of AAV2, a virus that is not routinely monitored - it may be that a peak of adenovirus infection has coincided with a peak in AAV2 exposure, leading to an unusual manifestation of hepatitis in susceptible young children."
 
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