ADSR Thorium in UK: Is It a Viable Gen IV Solution?

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The discussion centers on the viability of Accelerator Driven Subcritical Reactors (ADSRs) using thorium as a fuel source, particularly in the context of Generation IV nuclear technology. Participants explore various aspects of thorium reactor research, including ongoing projects in different countries and the potential for future developments.

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Main Points Raised

  • Stephen, an MSc student, expresses interest in thorium reactor research and questions whether ADSRs are a viable solution or a waste of time.
  • Catsworth inquires about active research on ADSR technology in the US, noting a lack of information from searches.
  • Another participant mentions two European projects, MYRRHA and a thorium reactor by Aker Solutions, and highlights ongoing Chinese research efforts.
  • R. Martin, a journalist, shares his background in thorium research and expresses interest in collaborating with Stephen.
  • Stephen offers to share research findings with R. Martin, emphasizing his current focus on reading papers about thorium and ADSRs.
  • One participant provides links to resources on thorium energy generation, particularly the Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor (LFTR) concept, and lists current research programs in China, India, France, and the Czech Republic.
  • Another participant reiterates the information about thorium research programs and mentions historical research in the US, including the Shippingport reactor's use of thorium fuel.
  • There is a correction regarding the timeline of thorium research in the US, clarifying that it continued into the 1980s and early 1990s.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the viability of ADSRs and the state of thorium research, with no consensus reached on whether ADSRs are a viable solution or not. Multiple competing views regarding the status and potential of thorium technology remain evident.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference specific projects and historical timelines, but there are limitations in the discussion regarding the completeness of information on ongoing research and the definitions of terms like "viable" in the context of thorium reactors.

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http://www.thorea.org/publications/ThoreaReportFinal.pdf
I am a MSc student in the UK and am looking into a PhD in Thorium reactor research. ADSRs seem great from this document and others I have been directed to. What do other people think? Viable Gen IV or waste of time?
yours
Stephen
 
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Very interesting. I was wondering if anyone knows if there is active research on this technology here in the US? A google search and a search of this forum was unfruitful.

Catsworth
 
I know of two in Europe so far MYRRHA http://www.sckcen.be/en/Our-Research/Research-domains/Advanced-nuclear-systems-GEN-IV-MYRRHA-ADS
and this one http://www.akersolutions.com/en/Global-menu/Products-and-Services/technology-segment/Energy-and-environmental/Nuclear/Novel-Thorium-Reactor/

I found reports at IAEA that the Chinese are plowing five year plan after five year plan into the tech too.
 
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I'm a US journalist & analyst, working on a book on thorium to be published in spring of 2012 by Macmillan Science. I wrote the thorium story that ran in Wired a year ago:
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/12/ff_new_nukes/
Mcgi5sr2, I'd be most interested in communicating and hearing about your research. If we could exchange emails I'd be most grateful.

R. Martin
 
Hi RMartinTh90,
as I mentioned I'm an MSc student, so my research is literally reading papers on Thorium and ADSRs. I will happily send you anything I find and help out where I can. I'm certainly not at a level to be a source though. I posted here to try and get advice on Thorium and ADSR tech. Love the article though.
yours
Stephen
 
http://energyfromthorium.com/

there you will find lots of documents regarding energy generation from thorium (especialy the LFTR concept) this site also have an active community with lots of experts that can help you.

Current research programs are located in:
- China (LFTR)
- India (AHWR)
- France (Various)
- Czech (LFTR)

The US stopped research on thorium in the sixties and further worked on a sodium fast breeder reactor.
 
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Tobias Anhalt said:
http://energyfromthorium.com/

there you will find lots of documents regarding energy generation from thorium (especialy the LFTR concept) this site also have an active community with lots of experts that can help you.

Current research programs are located in:
- China (LFTR)
- India (AHWR)
- France (Various)
- Czech (LFTR)

The US stopped research on thorium in the sixties and further worked on a sodium fast breeder reactor.
Actually, research with thorium fuel was conducted into the 1980's and early 90's. The Shippingport reactor irradiated thorium August 1977 until Oct. 1982. There was subsequent PIE, and reports issued during the late 1980's.

http://www.atomicinsights.com/oct95/LWBR_oct95.html
http://www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov/stargaze/Sthorium.htm

See Reference 2 here - http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf62.html#References
 
Actually, research with thorium fuel was conducted into the 1980's and early 90's. The Shippingport reactor irradiated thorium August 1977 until Oct. 1982. There was subsequent PIE, and reports issued during the late 1980's.

You are right.
The US stopped research on thorium in the sixties and further worked on a sodium fast breeder reactor.
Was regarding to the molten salt reactor experiment at Oak Ridge.
 

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