Advantages/disadvantages of disc brakes in any vehicle

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the advantages and disadvantages of disc brakes in vehicles, focusing on the problems encountered by users and potential alternatives. It includes technical considerations and user experiences related to performance and design challenges.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants mention heating of the disc as a potential problem, with warping due to heat being highlighted as a significant issue.
  • Others suggest that while disc brakes are generally reliable, heat transfer remains a concern that can be addressed through vehicle design, such as using drilled rotors for better air ducting.
  • A participant proposes exploring alternatives to disc brakes and seeks to understand the problems faced by users to formulate solutions.
  • Concerns about performance at various temperatures, including low and high extremes, are raised, along with issues like corrosion, squeal, fade, and judder.
  • One participant discusses the concept of electric calipers as a future development in disc brake technology, suggesting that reversing motor spin could create braking force, though this may introduce challenges related to ride and handling.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the problems associated with disc brakes, with no consensus on a definitive list of issues or solutions. Multiple competing perspectives on the effectiveness and future of disc brakes remain present.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying definitions of performance issues, dependence on specific vehicle designs, and unresolved technical details regarding the proposed alternatives to disc brakes.

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could someone let me know the problems being faced while using disc brakes in any sort of vehicles?
 
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what problems?? like heating of the disk?? or what??
 
any problem that you could suggest.
i'm thinking of an alternative to disc brakes.
but for that i need to know the problems being encountered by the user of the disc brake. then i can go ahead and try to formulate solutions for them.
 
wikipedia.org covers some basic issues:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc_brakes

I believe that warping due to heating is the biggest issue. That is mitigated by the slots and holes in high-performance discs.
 
Disk brakes are pretty bulletproof. I have read that the next big step in disk brakes would be calipers driven electrically rather than hydraulically. Heat transfer is a major concern, but that also falls under car design because drilled rotors need ducting to channel air into remove heat.

PML built an electric car that took a neat spin on braking:
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2006/08/the_hybrid_mini.php
reverseing the motors spin to create a braking force.
 
SRode said:
PML built an electric car that took a neat spin on braking:
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2006/08/the_hybrid_mini.php
reverseing the motors spin to create a braking force.

They're not reversing the motor current per se, but rather running the motors as generators. That's what's already done in standard hybrids to some extent (the batteries there can't take up the full power generated in this way, so you still need normal brakes). It's also used in electric RC cars.

As an aside, that Mini must have terrible ride and handling. A motor in each wheel would add a huge amount of unsprung weight.
 
Warping, squeal, fade, performance at low temperatures, performance at high temperatures, corrosion, judder, proportionality, life, wet performance, heat dissipation, control, balancing...
 

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