Aerodynamics and general dynamics knowledge requirements.

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The discussion centers around the foundational knowledge and coursework necessary for pursuing a degree in Aerospace Engineering, particularly focusing on mathematics and physics prerequisites. Participants explore the challenges of understanding aerodynamics texts due to unfamiliar symbols and concepts, and seek guidance on the appropriate order of study for various subjects.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to understand the mathematical symbols in aerodynamics books, indicating a lack of familiarity with Greek letters and their meanings.
  • Another participant suggests that the symbols in aerodynamics texts are typically defined within the book, recommending checking for a table of symbols or an index.
  • Several participants emphasize the need for a solid foundation in basic engineering subjects, including statics, dynamics, fluid mechanics, and general physics, before tackling advanced aerodynamics.
  • A participant shares their own educational path, listing courses they took prior to studying aerospace engineering, which included calculus, mechanics of materials, and differential equations.
  • There is a discussion about the importance of preemptive learning and the desire to familiarize oneself with core principles before formally studying the subjects.
  • Some participants acknowledge the complexity of the material and the necessity of a structured approach to learning.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of foundational knowledge in mathematics and physics for aerospace engineering. However, there are differing opinions on the best approach to preemptive learning and the extent to which one can prepare before formal education.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of aerodynamics and the use of Greek symbols, which may require additional study to fully understand. The discussion reflects a range of experiences and educational backgrounds, highlighting the variability in preparation for aerospace engineering.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students considering a career in aerospace engineering or related fields, particularly those seeking guidance on prerequisite knowledge and study strategies.

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Long story short. Want to know waaaay before I get deep into Aerospace Engineering, what I need to know to do it and if I can, I've already retrieved books on it. Like Fundamentals Of Aerodynamics... Some Calc 2 books.. Calc 1.. etc etc.

However I look at Calc 1/2, then look at my Aerodynamics books, even though they explain it really well there.. I am seeing greek symbols and stuff I don't even know... where do you learn that and can you guys please help me with EVERYTHING I need to know to be able to open up https://www.amazon.com/dp/0073398101/?tag=pfamazon01-20 and be able to start learning and actually know what I'm looking at?

So after Calc 1 - 3.. then?

Really would appreciate it, after all the years I spent telling everyone I am doing this, and passionate about it, I want ASSURANCE I can, by doing some work/learning about it years before I even have to do the work. I find it wise to know this beforehand... I am only in my first year of college, not even done with Calc 2 right now. But I open up this book and see crazy characters all over the place... I just want to be able to study and know it NOW. So I feel comfortable, pursuing to be a real engineer... Dont want to be that average guy who switches...

Thanks.
 
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Trent21 said:
Long story short. Want to know waaaay before I get deep into Aerospace Engineering, what I need to know to do it and if I can, I've already retrieved books on it. Like Fundamentals Of Aerodynamics... Some Calc 2 books.. Calc 1.. etc etc.

However I look at Calc 1/2, then look at my Aerodynamics books, even though they explain it really well there.. I am seeing greek symbols and stuff I don't even know... where do you learn that and can you guys please help me with EVERYTHING I need to know to be able to open up https://www.amazon.com/dp/0073398101/?tag=pfamazon01-20 and be able to start learning and actually know what I'm looking at?

So after Calc 1 - 3.. then?

Really would appreciate it, after all the years I spent telling everyone I am doing this, and passionate about it, I want ASSURANCE I can, by doing some work/learning about it years before I even have to do the work. I find it wise to know this beforehand... I am only in my first year of college, not even done with Calc 2 right now. But I open up this book and see crazy characters all over the place... I just want to be able to study and know it NOW. So I feel comfortable, pursuing to be a real engineer... Dont want to be that average guy who switches...

Thanks.
Before you get to your aerodynamics/aerospace engineering courses, you'll have to study at least two years of the basic undergrad engineering curriculum, which includes a lot more subjects than simply the mathematics courses, simply to prepare you for the courses you'll study in the later years of your degree. You'll be studying stuff like statics and dynamics, fluid mechanics, general physics, etc. Simply thumbing through one textbook is not going to tell you all you need to know, even if you knew what all those Greek symbols meant, and no one, especially on an internet forum, is going to be able to teach you enough to short-circuit this process.
 
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The symbols in an aerodynamics book will be defined somewhere in the book before they are used. Check if there is a table of symbols or if they are in the index. Otherwise, you may have to read from the beginning and keep a list. Most of the symbols used will be fairly standard for the subject of Aero (α = angle of attack, β = angle of sideslip, etc.).
 
SteamKing said:
Before you get to your aerodynamics/aerospace engineering courses, you'll have to study at least two years of the basic undergrad engineering curriculum, which includes a lot more subjects than simply the mathematics courses, simply to prepare you for the courses you'll study in the later years of your degree. You'll be studying stuff like statics and dynamics, fluid mechanics, general physics, etc. Simply thumbing through one textbook is not going to tell you all you need to know, even if you knew what all those Greek symbols meant, and no one, especially on an internet forum, is going to be able to teach you enough to short-circuit this process.

Perhaps not short circuit it... but having like a pre-cache won't hurt. All I want really. Fluid dynamics, mechanics, general physics.. Just want to dabble in it atleast beforehand. Why I was asking what kind of order should I look into this at. Don't want to do the whole courses before I even get their of course, but know the principals preemptively.

And thanks guys for the Greek letter info. And yeah I figured it was due to how many more factors you use in this stuff you'd need more "variables".
 
I used J.D. Anderson's book when I studied aerospace engineering. It was part of a second year course. It is a very good entry level book, but before we were ready to study and fully appreciate the content we studied, among other courses:
Statics and Dynamics (Meriam and Kraige, first we did statics, then dynamics)
Calculus (forgot the author, studied it alongside statics and dynamics)
Mechanics of Materials (Timoshenko, after studying statics, together with dynamics)
Linear algebra (Lay, started after after statics and the first half of the calculus book)
Differential equations (Boyce and DiPrima, after finishing statics, calculus and linear algebra)
Some courses containing simplified aerodynamics/fluid dynamics, at the level of Schaums outline fluid dynamics basically

If you do not want to be that average guy, focus on what you need to learn NOW so you are prepared for what you would like to learn in the future.
 
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bigfooted said:
I used J.D. Anderson's book when I studied aerospace engineering. It was part of a second year course. It is a very good entry level book, but before we were ready to study and fully appreciate the content we studied, among other courses:
Statics and Dynamics (Meriam and Kraige, first we did statics, then dynamics)
Calculus (forgot the author, studied it alongside statics and dynamics)
Mechanics of Materials (Timoshenko, after studying statics, together with dynamics)
Linear algebra (Lay, started after after statics and the first half of the calculus book)
Differential equations (Boyce and DiPrima, after finishing statics, calculus and linear algebra)
Some courses containing simplified aerodynamics/fluid dynamics, at the level of Schaums outline fluid dynamics basically

If you do not want to be that average guy, focus on what you need to learn NOW so you are prepared for what you would like to learn in the future.

Exactly why I'm doing it now. Havent even started Calc/Static classes yet. But I am already studying on it.. about 1-2 years before I get there.
So it looks like the statics/dynamics are the main components of knowledge I was missing. Perfect. Exactly what I was looking for, thanks.
Interestingly the differentials seem easier to learn than from how infamous everyone is telling me they are... I'll save the truly infamous ordeal expectations for the Dynamics...
 

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