Aeroplane follows circular trajectory-Tension? (geometry)

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a model airplane flying in a horizontal circular trajectory, where participants are exploring the geometry of force components and their application to different axes. The problem involves understanding the forces acting on the airplane, including tension, gravitational force, and aerodynamic lift at a specific angle.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the definitions of the axes used in the problem and how to apply trigonometric functions to find force components. There is confusion regarding the orientation of the axes and how they relate to the forces acting on the airplane.

Discussion Status

Some participants are beginning to find clarity in their understanding of the force components as they relate to the new axes. Guidance has been offered regarding the definitions of the axes and the application of trigonometric functions, but there remains some uncertainty about the specific calculations and interpretations of the results.

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Participants mention language barriers and the challenge of understanding scientific terminology in English, which may affect their interpretation of the problem and the discussion.

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Homework Statement



So, I have this problem here that's pretty basic, but the solution manual sets different axes, and I'm having a bit of trouble understanding the geometry part, meaning how he applies the given forces to the new axes.

A model airplane of mass 0.750 kg fl ies with a speed of 35.0 ms in a horizontal circle at the end of a 60.0 m control wire. The forces exerted on the airplane are shown in Figure P6.63: the tension in the control wire, the gravitational force, and aerodynamic lift that acts at θ = 20.0° inward from the vertical. Compute the tension in the wire, assuming it makes a constant angle of 20.0° with the horizontal.First of all, here's the main pic:

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Homework Equations



It's the geometry part that gives me trouble.

The Attempt at a Solution



He finds the radius of the circular trajectory that the plane follows:

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No trouble here, we just take the direction of T as the hypotenouse and going with cosθ = r/l finds the radius.

Then there's this:

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English is not my native language, so I'm not sure whether he means that x and y are the crossed lines, or the lines that "fall on top" the directions of T & F respectively. From the test I'm getting the latter, but if I try to apply the usual cosx = adjacent/hypotenouse and sinx = opposite/hypotenouse, I can't figure out how he gets his results.

I'd appreciate some help!

PS: I know this isn't exactly a "problem" with statements and such, but it's only this part that troubles me, and I didn't know where else to post it.
 
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Darthkostis said:
I'm not sure whether he means that x and y are the crossed lines, or the lines that "fall on top" the directions of T & F respectively.
The book defines x as at 20 degrees to the horizontal, along the line of the tether. Correspondingly, y is at 20 degrees to the vertical, along the line of the lift force.
Please clarify where you have difficulty with the resulting equations.
 
haruspex said:
The book defines x as at 20 degrees to the horizontal, along the line of the tether. Correspondingly, y is at 20 degrees to the vertical, along the line of the lift force.
Please clarify where you have difficulty with the resulting equations.

How he gets that Fgx = Fg*sin(20) & acx = ac*cos(20). I know that he uses the formulas of cosine and sine, but I can't figure out how he gets these particular results.
 
Darthkostis said:
How he gets that Fgx = Fg*sin(20) & acx = ac*cos(20). I know that he uses the formulas of cosine and sine, but I can't figure out how he gets these particular results.
What would you calculate for the component of Fg in the x direction?
 
haruspex said:
What would you calculate for the component of Fg in the x direction?

I worked at it again and realized I was looking at it wrong. The new axes confused me and I lost my train of thought. If I'm not mistaken, it should look something like this:

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I go by the previous x & y axes, I take the directions the acceleration and Fg had on them, and then I create a net force based on the new axes. Correct? (there might be a misconception or two in my wording, but I'm still trying to get the hang of the english scientific terms).
 
Darthkostis said:
I worked at it again and realized I was looking at it wrong. The new axes confused me and I lost my train of thought. If I'm not mistaken, it should look something like this:

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I go by the previous x & y axes, I take the directions the acceleration and Fg had on them, and then I create a net force based on the new axes. Correct? (there might be a misconception or two in my wording, but I'm still trying to get the hang of the english scientific terms).
Yes, that looks right. At least, I see you now get Fgx=Fgsin(θ). Is the rest ok now?
 
haruspex said:
Yes, that looks right. At least, I see you now get F[SUBgx][/SUB]=Fgsin(θ). Is the rest ok now?

Yeah, that was the only part I had trouble with, not with the formulas themselves. I've got the acceleration vectors on the left as well, so that's all.

Thanks for taking the time!
 

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