Aftermath of a collision with an ice giant

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The discussion explores the plausibility of an ice giant, such as Neptune, being shattered by a collision and the subsequent dynamics of the resulting debris field. It also considers the potential for the colliding object to be captured in a similar orbit to the remnants of the destroyed planet, as well as the implications of such an event on the debris and surrounding environment.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the plausibility of an ice giant being shattered by a collision while maintaining a debris field for a few hundred thousand years before recoalescing.
  • Another participant draws a parallel to the postulated formation of Earth's Moon, suggesting that a debris field could remain in orbit for a significant time without the collider needing to leave the solar system.
  • A third participant raises concerns about the effects of solar flares on the swirling debris in the absence of a planet's magnetic field, questioning if it could behave like a large comet.
  • There is a mention of the potential influence of an inner giant's magneto-tail on the debris field, although the participant notes a lack of evidence for comets interacting with such tails.
  • One participant argues that the concept of "shattering" is complex due to the gravitational forces holding the planet together, suggesting that it may not be as straightforward as implied.
  • Another participant proposes that a close encounter with a massive body, like Jupiter, could disrupt an ice giant without a direct collision.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the plausibility of the scenario, with no consensus reached on the mechanics of shattering an ice giant or the subsequent behavior of the debris field.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexities involved in gravitational interactions and the role of magnetic fields, highlighting uncertainties in the dynamics of debris fields and the effects of solar radiation.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in speculative astrophysics, planetary formation theories, and the dynamics of celestial collisions may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi again.

Is it plausible that an ice giant like Neptune could be shattered by a collision such that it keeps a tight debris field for a few hundred thousand years before recoalescing as a planet?

In my story the characters hide in a debris field and refine the ices for fuel.

Also, if the planet shattering is plausible, could it be plausible that the collider gets captured by the host star in the same orbit (or close enough) as the destroyed planet, yet retrograde such the remnants of the ice giant and the remnants of the object that collided would interact twice in each of their years.
 
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Except for the ice part, that sounds similar to the postulated formation of Earth's Moon. The debris field stayed in low Earth orbit for a long time before coalescing and before the orbital radius became so large.

It lacks only the collider part of your scenario. I'm guessing that nothing in orbital mechanics forces the collider body to leave the solar system.

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A possible 'gotcha': What happens to swirling debris without the planet core's magnetic field ? No magnetosphere to protect against solar flares, when could become a humungous 'comet' ?

Double-jeopardy: Is there an inner 'giant' whose magneto-tail may 'routinely' interact with the debris field ?
I can't find any reports of comets flaring when passing through Jupiter's magneto-tail, but several mentions that 'tail' is long enough to interact with Saturn when their orbital positions align every dozen or so years...
 
"Shattered" is difficult for something held together by gravity and not chemistry.
 
A close pass by a Jupiter (domestic or rogue) could rip such a planet apart without needing an actual collision.
 

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