Air Gun Sighted at a Falling Target Demonstration

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the physics of firing a bullet at a falling target, specifically examining the effects of air resistance on the trajectory of both the bullet and the target. Participants explore theoretical implications and practical considerations related to this scenario.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that without air resistance, the bullet follows a parabolic trajectory, while with air resistance, the trajectory becomes more complex.
  • It is suggested that the drag force of air may not have a vertical component, potentially allowing for interception, but the effects of drag could vary between the bullet and the target.
  • One participant notes that the impact of air resistance might be small enough to ignore in a classroom demonstration, although they acknowledge that in a highly viscous fluid, the results would differ significantly.
  • Another participant emphasizes that air resistance will affect both the bullet and the target, complicating the problem due to differing velocity profiles.
  • A hypothetical scenario is introduced where the target is attached to a parachute, illustrating a situation where air resistance would have a pronounced effect.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that air resistance will affect the collision dynamics, but there are multiple competing views regarding the extent and nature of this effect, leaving the discussion unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention that the effects of air resistance are not constant and depend on various factors, including the characteristics of the bullet and the target. The discussion does not resolve how significant these effects are in practical scenarios.

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So in class today, we were talking about how if you fire a bullet aimed at a falling target and release the target and the bullet at the exact same time, they will surely collide. I asked if air resistance (since it’s not a constant force) wouldn’t affect the collision and my teacher didn’t have a response. Could I have help please?
 
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Hi,
:welcome:
Good question !

Without air resistance the bullet trajectory is a parabola (the black line in the picture here ) .
That is what your exercises will want for your near future.

With air resistance the bullet slows down considerably and follows a (much) more complicated trajectory.
The target will also experience air resistance, but most likely not in the exact same way as the bullet (feather target? brick target?).
It would be somewhat coincidental if both drop equally far over the distance of the shot.

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If the drag force of the air has no vertical component (only affecting the horizontal velocity component) the target will still be intercepted although the juncture may change.
Typically the drag force is antiparallel to the velocity itself and so the result may be affected. Obviously for the classroom demo these effects are small enough to ignore (because most of the drag is in fact horizontal).
Your Prof probably didn't want to wander off into the weeds ! But you know intuitively that a very highly viscous fluid will ruin the result. Depending on your level of skill you could refine this question...like how much does air drag affect the result etc etc. Good question.
 
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mopit_011 said:
So in class today, we were talking about how if you fire a bullet aimed at a falling target and release the target and the bullet at the exact same time, they will surely collide. I asked if air resistance (since it’s not a constant force) wouldn’t affect the collision and my teacher didn’t have a response. Could I have help please?
As already mentioned, air resistance will slow the bullet and the velocity of the falling object, but because the velocity profiles of each of those is different, it becomes a more complicated problem.

But for short-range monkey falling problems, the monkey does not do so well...

 
mopit_011 said:
I asked if air resistance (since it’s not a constant force) wouldn’t affect the collision ...
In general, it will. Imagine the target hangs on a parachute (not uncommon in war).
 

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