Algebra difficulty defining equation

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The discussion revolves around an algebra problem involving the pricing of memory sticks, specifically focusing on the relationship between discounted and non-discounted prices. The original poster presents a scenario where a discount affects the total cost of multiple items, leading to a comparison of costs between discounted and non-discounted memory sticks.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the setup of the equation, questioning how constants are added or subtracted to balance the equation. They discuss the implications of the discount on the pricing and the relationship between the quantities of discounted and non-discounted memory sticks.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes attempts to clarify the algebraic relationships and reasoning behind the setup of the equation. Some participants suggest different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the handling of the $12 difference in cost. There is an ongoing exploration of how to balance the equation correctly without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Participants express uncertainty about the reasoning behind their algebraic manipulations and the implications of the discount on the overall pricing structure. There is a focus on understanding the balance of the equation rather than arriving at a final answer.

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Homework Statement


a memory stick was sold with 3 $ discount

seven discounted memory sticks costed 12 dollars more than five of the non-discounted-memory sticks

what is the price of non-discounted memory stick (normal price if you will)

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The Attempt at a Solution



This is probably simple problem to most of you guys but I always had difficulty with this type of riddles.

I don't think I ever got the reason why, why some constant value, should be added to either the left side of the equation or the right side of the equation.

x = normal price in $

x-3 = discounted price, discounted by 3$

7 * (x-3) = 5x

I'm drawing a blank here... help me out heere. Something is twelve more or twelve less. 12 needs to be added or subtracted from something I think... Reasoning is below.

But isn't the whole purpose of making an equation to say simply... the scale is now balanced.
If the scale is balanced on both sides, then the equation is balanced and the equation has some real solutions. (I think)

For inequalities, the purpose is that one side of the inequality is more than the other side.
 
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late347 said:

Homework Statement


a memory stick was sold with 3 $ discount

seven discounted memory sticks costed 12 dollars more than five of the non-discounted-memory sticks

what is the price of non-discounted memory stick (normal price if you will)

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



This is probably simple problem to most of you guys but I always had difficulty with this type of riddles.

I don't think I ever got the reason why, why some constant value, should be added to either the left side of the equation or the right side of the equation.

x = normal price in $

x-3 = discounted price, discounted by 3$

7 * (x-3) = 5x

I'm drawing a blank here... help me out heere. Something is twelve more or twelve less. 12 needs to be added or subtracted from something I think... Reasoning is below.

But isn't the whole purpose of making an equation to say simply... the scale is now balanced.
If the scale is balanced on both sides, then the equation is balanced and the equation has some real solutions. (I think)

For inequalities, the purpose is that one side of the inequality is more than the other side.
What is more expensive: seven discounted memory sticks or five non-discounted-memory sticks?

In algebraic terms, the same question would be: which number is larger, 7 * (x-3) or 5x?
 
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Samy_A said:
What is more expensive: seven discounted memory sticks or five non-discounted-memory sticks?

In algebraic terms, the same question would be: which number is larger, 7 * (x-3) or 5x?

seven discounted sticks is more than 5 original sticks.

I think it would then be sensible and reduce the 12, from the discounted sticks.

7*(x-3) is already greater by 12, than the original 5 sticks

so it should be thus that

7*(x-3) - 12 = 5x

when the leftside gets reduced, then the both sides are the same amount. (at least it looks like so in my mind)

that one yields
7x -21 -12 = 5x
7x -33 =5x ]]]] both sides -5x

2x -33 = 0 ]]]]] both sides + 33
2x = 33

x= 33/2 dollars
x= 16,5 $
 
late347 said:
seven discounted sticks is more than 5 original sticks.

I think it would then be sensible and reduce the 12, from the discounted sticks.

7*(x-3) is already greater by 12, than the original 5 sticks

so it should be thus that

7*(x-3) - 12 = 5x

when the leftside gets reduced, then the both sides are the same amount. (at least it looks like so in my mind)

that one yields
7x -21 -12 = 5x
7x -33 =5x ]]]] both sides -5x

2x -33 = 0 ]]]]] both sides + 33
2x = 33

x= 33/2 dollars
x= 16,5 $
Correct.
 
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