Algebraic Rational Expressions

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The discussion revolves around simplifying an algebraic rational expression and identifying the restrictions on the variables involved. The focus includes both the simplification process and the conditions under which the expressions are defined, particularly in the context of division of fractions.

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  • One participant presents a rational expression to simplify and asks for restrictions on the variables.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on the expression's formulation, suggesting a potential correction.
  • A later reply confirms the expression and emphasizes the need to identify values of variables that would make the denominators zero.
  • Participants discuss the process of dividing fractions, noting the importance of inverting and multiplying, while reiterating that certain variable conditions must be met to avoid division by zero.
  • There is mention of simplifying the expression by canceling common factors in the numerator and denominator.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to identify restrictions on the variables and the method of simplifying the expression, but there is some uncertainty regarding the exact formulation of the expression itself.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the initial expression's formulation, which may affect the simplification process and the restrictions on the variables.

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I am attempting to find the solution to the following question.

Simplify and state the restrictions on the variables$$\frac{5a^5b^6}{10a^2b^3}\div\frac{2a^4b^2}{20a^3b^5}$$

Not really understanding how to find the restrictions with these set variables.
 
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Hello and welcome to MHB, jjlittle00! (Wave)

I am assuming the expression is as follows:

$$\frac{5a^5b^6}{10a^2b^3}\div\frac{2a^2b^3}{20a^2b^3}$$

Before we proceed, is this correct?
 
MarkFL said:
Hello and welcome to MHB, jjlittle00! (Wave)

I am assuming the expression is as follows:

$$\frac{5a^5b^6}{10a^2b^3}\div\frac{2a^4b^2}{20a^3b^5}$$

Before we proceed, is this correct?
Yes this is correct. Just made one small correction.
 
jjlittle00 said:
Yes this is correct. Just made one small correction.

Okay, we now have:

$$\frac{5a^5b^6}{10a^2b^3}\div\frac{2a^4b^2}{20a^3b^5}$$

We have one rational expression being divided by another. In order for these expressions to be defined, we cannot have either denominator being equal to zero. What values of $a$ and/or $b$ will cause either denominator to be zero?
 
Also, when we divide by a fraction, we "invert and multiply": \frac{5a^5b^6}{10a^2b^3}\frac{20a^3b^5}{2a^4b^2}. So that, in addition to the requirement that the denominators of the original fractions not being 0, 2a^4b^2 cannot be 0. That is effectively saying that a and b cannot be 0.

Of course, to "simplify" you cancel as many "a"s and "b"s, in numerator and denominator, as you can.
 
HallsofIvy said:
Also, when we divide by a fraction, we "invert and multiply": \frac{5a^5b^6}{10a^2b^3}\frac{20a^3b^5}{2a^4b^2}. So that, in addition to the requirement that the denominators of the original fractions not being 0, 2a^4b^2 cannot be 0. That is effectively saying that a and b cannot be 0.

Of course, to "simplify" you cancel as many "a"s and "b"s, in numerator and denominator, as you can.

I was going to get to all that eventually...honest I was...:p
 

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