Alien Lifeforms: Adapting to Extreme Environments and Behaviors

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The discussion explores the potential characteristics and adaptations of alien lifeforms in extreme environments, considering factors such as gravity, temperature, and atmospheric conditions. Participants speculate on how these conditions might influence the evolution of life and its capabilities, including tool manipulation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that alien life could evolve in environments with significantly higher or lower gravity, leading to adaptations such as low-lying creatures or large flying beings in high-pressure atmospheres.
  • Others suggest that life in hotter environments might adapt to low moisture conditions, while life in colder climates could exhibit slow growth and fast metabolism in predators.
  • A participant humorously notes that any alien life would need a method of manipulating tools, suggesting various anatomical adaptations like hands or tentacles.
  • Some participants express a humorous interest in the idea of aliens failing to adapt to Earth's thinner atmosphere, leading to comical scenarios of them falling from spaceships.
  • There is a critique of common science fiction tropes where advanced alien races encounter trivial failures upon arriving on Earth, with references to specific films and their implausible plots.
  • One participant introduces the notion that alien emotions and motivations could be entirely incomprehensible to humans, referencing Lovecraftian themes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express a range of speculative ideas about alien life and its adaptations, with humor interspersed throughout. However, there is no consensus on specific characteristics or scenarios, and multiple competing views remain regarding the plausibility of various adaptations and science fiction portrayals.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions involve assumptions about environmental conditions and their effects on life, which remain unresolved. The conversation also touches on the limitations of science fiction narratives without reaching definitive conclusions.

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Assume it could be from a world where the gravity is much higher or much lower than ours,
it could be much hotter or colder than ours, it would have to have a method of manipulating tools.
 
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Similar to pretty much anything from http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YkVhy6KWXfU/TbxSNBeu0jI/AAAAAAAApYE/edYA02hHg_s/s640/Strange_Animal_alien.JPG to this or maybe this or perhaps even this. Semi-sarcastic point being that there is huge variety in how life can evolve on a single planet, there is little in common beyond biochemistry and development (and those are potentially just artefacts of chance). I don't imagine that anywhere else in the universe with life would be different.

However in the spirit of the question...
wolram said:
Assume it could be from a world where the gravity is much higher
Creatures would be low lying with perhaps a tendency for cushioning, sea life is less affected and simply adapts to conditions of higher pressure. If the atmosphere is significantly higher pressure far larger flying creatures could evolve.
wolram said:
Or much lower than ours,
Heavy animals may evolve to avoid predators, flying creatures would need huge wings and high metabolism to fly in the low pressure atmosphere.
wolram said:
it could be much hotter
Life adapts to low moisture conditions, tendency for basking. Plants are few and far between.
wolram said:
or colder than ours
Combination of slow growing slow metabolises and fast growing predators.
wolram said:
it would have to have a method of manipulating tools.
Anything with a hand, claw, mouth, tentacle, tail...
 
Knowing my luck they'd all look like my mother-in-law.
 
Actually I kind of like the idea of a movie where aliens come Earth and find they can't fly because our atmosphere is much thinner. You could see them jumping from their spaceships hovering over all our major cities as part of a coordinated major attack and just falling to the Earth and going SPLAT
 
Office_Shredder said:
Actually I kind of like the idea of a movie where aliens come Earth and find they can't fly because our atmosphere is much thinner. You could see them jumping from their spaceships hovering over all our major cities as part of a coordinated major attack and just falling to the Earth and going SPLAT

I too have thought of this, low gravity beings would have no chance.
 
Office_Shredder said:
Actually I kind of like the idea of a movie where aliens come Earth and find they can't fly because our atmosphere is much thinner. You could see them jumping from their spaceships hovering over all our major cities as part of a coordinated major attack and just falling to the Earth and going SPLAT
I know your joking but this is the exactly type of bizarre illogical plot that is pervasive in Tv and film SF; a super advanced alien race travels lightyears to Earth in interstellar vehicles only to suffer engine failure over Nevada or die because they're allergic to water (and didn't realize the planet they were visiting is covered in it) or some equally banal catastrophe that's intellectually equivalent to an Antarctic exhibition of today forgetting clothes.
 
Ryan_m_b said:
I know your joking but this is the exactly type of bizarre illogical plot that is pervasive in Tv and film SF; a super advanced alien race travels lightyears to Earth in interstellar vehicles only to suffer engine failure over Nevada or die because they're allergic to water (and didn't realize the planet they were visiting is covered in it) or some equally banal catastrophe that's intellectually equivalent to an Antarctic exhibition of today forgetting clothes.

I would like to see that exhibition.
 
gneill said:
I would like to see that exhibition.
Oops, iPhone autocorrect lol
 
Isn't it obvious?
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Ryan_m_b said:
I know your joking but this is the exactly type of bizarre illogical plot that is pervasive in Tv and film SF; a super advanced alien race travels lightyears to Earth in interstellar vehicles only to suffer engine failure over Nevada or die because they're allergic to water (and didn't realize the planet they were visiting is covered in it) or some equally banal catastrophe that's intellectually equivalent to an Antarctic exhibition of today forgetting clothes.

Reminds me of the aliens in Battle Los Angeles that have ONE drone controller that is taken out by ONE missile that renders their drones completely inop. TERRIBLE plan.
 
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I kind of like the idea (following Lovecraft?) that the aliens emotions and motivations are completely incomprehensible to us.
 

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