All science fiction movies are wrong

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the validity of the Drake Equation and its implications for the existence of extraterrestrial civilizations, particularly in the context of science fiction representations. Participants explore the nature of these civilizations, debating whether they would be biological or robotic, and question the accuracy of sci-fi movies in depicting such entities.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the Drake Equation suggests there are potentially 10,000 communicable civilizations in the Milky Way, with many more across the universe, and propose that these civilizations will be robotic rather than biological.
  • Others challenge the premise of the Drake Equation, arguing that its parameters are not accurately known and thus its conclusions are speculative.
  • One participant emphasizes the historical success of organic life forms in utilizing solar energy and questions the viability of robotic civilizations over billions of years.
  • Another participant points out that science fiction is inherently fictional and should not be judged by standards of factual accuracy, suggesting that the intent of such works is entertainment rather than scientific representation.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the assertion that all sci-fi movies are wrong, noting that this overlooks the diversity of themes and narratives within the genre.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the validity of the Drake Equation and its implications for the future of civilizations. There is no consensus on whether all science fiction movies are incorrect in their portrayals of extraterrestrial life.

Contextual Notes

Discussions around the Drake Equation highlight uncertainties regarding its parameters and the speculative nature of its conclusions. Participants also note the distinction between fiction and factual representation in media.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in the intersection of science fiction, astrobiology, and the philosophical implications of technological advancement may find this discussion relevant.

  • #31
Tghu Verd said:
It my have been, and we're living in a simulation they've created for their own amusement!

Perhaps they died out a few billion years ago - or sublimed if you're an Iain M. Banks fan - and evidence of their passing has not been found.

Or they colonized a different galaxy and are too far away for us to know.

It's all fun speculation and none of us is wrong...until the data says we are! (Which I'm not expecting any time soon, the universe is a big place, there is lots of room for strange stuff to happen and only a few of us looking for it.)

well Alastair Reynolds is the great Fermi Paradox SF author
 
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  • #32
BWV said:
well Alastair Reynolds is the great Fermi Paradox SF author
Or Cixin Liu if one want cosmic horror.
 

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