Alpha Particles: Time for Half Circle Motion

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The discussion revolves around the motion of alpha particles in a magnetic field, specifically focusing on calculating the time it takes for an alpha particle to traverse half of a circular path. The subject area includes concepts from electromagnetism and circular motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of the formula for the period of circular motion and question how to appropriately use the given speed in their calculations. There is also a focus on identifying relevant physical laws and relationships between speed, charge, and magnetic force.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the physical laws applicable to the situation, and there is an ongoing inquiry into the relationship between speed and magnetic force.

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Participants are considering the mass of the alpha particle and its charge, as well as the implications of using the speed in their calculations. There is a suggestion to look up specific values related to the helium nucleus.

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An alpha particle (the nucleus of a helium atom) consists of two protons and two neutrons. A horizontal beam of alpha particles is injected with a speed of 2.0 105 m/s into a region with a vertical magnetic field of magnitude 0.113 T.

(a) How long does it take for an alpha particle to move halfway through a complete circle?

I am trying to apply this equation:

T = 2pieM/qB

and I thought about it, do I use the speed as my q and for m, find the mass of (two protons and two neutrons) for my m?
 
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whoknows12345 said:
An alpha particle (the nucleus of a helium atom) consists of two protons and two neutrons. A horizontal beam of alpha particles is injected with a speed of 2.0 105 m/s into a region with a vertical magnetic field of magnitude 0.113 T.

(a) How long does it take for an alpha particle to move halfway through a complete circle?

I am trying to apply this equation:

T = 2pieM/qB

and I thought about it, do I use the speed as my q and for m, find the mass of (two protons and two neutrons) for my m?
Rather than trying to apply an equation why not start by telling us what physics law applies here.

The T is the period of the circular motion, m is the mass, q is the charge, and B is the magnetic field. Look up the mass of a helium atom and use that (the electrons do not add much mass). What is the charge of a helium nucleus?

AM
 
i understand that, but when do I actually use my speed given to find the answer?
 
whoknows12345 said:
i understand that, but when do I actually use my speed given to find the answer?
What is the relationship between speed and magnetic force on a moving charge? That is what you have to use. You then have to relate that to circular motion to find the radius of the circular path. That will give you the distance the particle has to move through.

AM
 

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