Alternating series test problem

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of an alternating series defined by the expression ∑(-1)^n(10^n)/(n+1)!. Participants are exploring the conditions under which the alternating series test can be applied, particularly focusing on the behavior of the terms as n increases.

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  • Participants discuss the application of the ratio test and the conditions for the alternating series test, questioning whether the series decreases and how to demonstrate that. There is also a consideration of the relationship between exponential and factorial growth rates.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the conditions for applying the alternating series test and clarified the implications of absolute convergence. There is an ongoing exploration of the necessary conditions for the series to be considered decreasing.

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Participants express uncertainty about the requirements for proving that the series decreases and the implications of absolute convergence on the need for further testing.

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Homework Statement



n=1∑(-1)n\stackrel{10<sup>n</sup>}{(n+1)!}

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The Attempt at a Solution



I already found that the limit does equal zero by using the ratio test on bn. What I'm having trouble with is determining if it decreases or not. I know you can't take the derivative of a factorial... Does an exponential increase faster than a factorial?
 
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jdawg said:

Homework Statement



n=1∑(-1)n\stackrel{10<sup>n</sup>}{(n+1)!}

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I already found that the limit does equal zero by using the ratio test on bn. What I'm having trouble with is determining if it decreases or not. I know you can't take the derivative of a factorial... Does an exponential increase faster than a factorial?
Oops! I don't know what I did wrong trying to type that the first time. It's supposed to look like this:
(-1)n((10n)/(n+1)!)
 
FYI, to see how to typeset, right click this expression, and choose "Show Math As TeX Commands":
$$\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^n 10^n}{(n+1)!}$$
Then bracket the commands in double-dollar signs like so:
Code:
$$\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^n 10^n}{(n+1)!}$$
Note that if the ratio test succeeds, it implies absolute convergence.
 
Ohh! Thanks so much! I've been having a lot of trouble trying to figure out how to format things correctly. So you wouldn't have to prove that it decreases? I thought that for the alternating series test you first had to prove that the limit equals zero, and then you had to prove that the series decreases?
 
jdawg said:
Ohh! Thanks so much! I've been having a lot of trouble trying to figure out how to format things correctly. So you wouldn't have to prove that it decreases? I thought that for the alternating series test you first had to prove that the limit equals zero, and then you had to prove that the series decreases?
You only have to use the alternating series test if the series doesn't converge absolutely. Absolute convergence implies convergence, so there is no need for further testing. The ##(-1)^n## factor is irrelevant.
 
If you have to use the alternating series test you can. If ##a_n## is the nth term of your series then you want to show ##|a_{n+1}|<|a_n|##. That's the same as showing ##\frac{|a_{n+1}|}{|a_n|}<1##. That's not true for every n. But it only has to be true for large n. At what value of n does it become true? If you don't have to, then as jbunniii said, the ratio test is a better choice.
 
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Thanks so much for the help, I think I get it now :)
 

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