MHB Alternative Method for Solving ∫sin(3x)cos(5x)dx?

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The discussion focuses on alternative methods for solving the integral ∫sin(3x)cos(5x)dx without using the product formula. One user presents a solution using trigonometric identities, leading to a final answer that includes a negative cosine term, which raises a question about its sign. The response clarifies that the negative sign arises because cosine is an even function, allowing for simplification. Additionally, other users suggest integration by parts as a viable method, emphasizing that it can be applied multiple times to find the integral. Overall, the thread explores different approaches to tackle the integral while addressing concerns about the solution's presentation.
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another trig problem that i tried to solve. just want know an alternative way of solving this without using product formula.

$\displaystyle\int \sin(3x)\cos(5x)dx$

anyways this is how i solved it

$\displaystyle\int\frac{1}{2}\sin(3x-5x)+\frac{1}{2}\sin(3x+5x)dx$

$\displaystyle\int\frac{1}{2}\sin(-2x)+\frac{1}{2}\sin(8x)dx$

$\displaystyle\frac{1}{2}\int\sin(-2x)dx+\frac{1}{2}\int\sin(8x)dx$

$\displaystyle u=-2x$; $\displaystyle du=-2dx$; $\displaystyle dx=-\frac{1}{2}du$

$\displaystyle v=8x$; $\displaystyle dv=8dx$; $\displaystyle dx=\frac{1}{8}dv$

$\displaystyle-\frac{1}{4}\int\sin(u)du+\frac{1}{16}\int\sin(v)dv$

$\displaystyle -\frac{1}{4}(-\cos(-2x))+\frac{1}{16}(-\cos(8x))+C$

$\displaystyle \frac{1}{4}\cos(-2x)-\frac{1}{16}\cos(8x)+C$ ---- this is my answer.

the -2x part in this answer is bothering me because in my book it's not negative. please tell me why is that.
 
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paulmdrdo said:
The $-2x$ part in this answer is bothering me because in my book it's not negative. Please tell me why is that.

Because $\cos$ is an even function. That is, $\cos(-x)= \cos(x)$ for all $x$.
 
is there another way of solving this? please let me know.
 
Hello, paulmdrdo!

Is there another way of solving this?

. . \displaystyle \int \sin(3x)\cos(5x)\,dx
There is . . . but you won't like it!Identities:

. . \sin(3x) \:=\:3\sin x - 4\sin^3\!x
. . \cos(5x) \:=\:5\cos x - 20\cos^3\!x + 16\cos^5\!xHence:

.\sin(3x)\cos(5x) \,=\, (3\sin x\!-\!4\sin^3\!x)(5\cos x\!-\!20\cos^3\!x\!+\!16\cos^5\!x)

. . =\;15\sin\cos x - 60\sin x\cos^3\!x + 48\sin x\cos^5\!x
. . . . . - 20\sin^3\!x\cos x + 80\sin^3\!x\cos^3\!x - 64\sin^3\!x\cos^5\!xNow integrate that term by term.
 
$$\int \sin(ax) \cos(bx) \, dx $$

Can be transformed to

$$\frac{1}{a}\int \sin(x) \cos(c x) \, dx $$

Try integration by parts twice .
 
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ZaidAlyafey said:
$$\int \sin(ax) \cos(bx) \, dx $$

Can be transformed to

$$\frac{1}{a}\int \sin(x) \cos(c x) \, dx $$

Try integration by parts twice .

You wouldn't even need to transform. Just integrate by parts twice and "solve" for the integral.
 

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