Am I understanding horizontal shift properly?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the concept of horizontal shifts in function graphs, specifically in the context of the function transformations involving f(x) and g(x) as described in a textbook. Participants are exploring how the transformation g(x) = f(x-c) relates to shifting the graph of f(x) horizontally.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants attempt to visualize the transformation by plotting specific functions and analyzing their intersections with the axes. Others question the interpretation of the transformation, particularly regarding the nature of the shift versus compression of the graph.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active with participants sharing their interpretations and visualizations of the horizontal shift. There is a mix of agreement and differing views on the nature of the transformation, particularly regarding whether it involves compression or a simple shift.

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Participants reference a specific textbook for definitions and examples, which seems to be a source of confusion for some. The discussion includes attempts to clarify the definitions and implications of the transformations described in the text.

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I mean, it does make sense, if I plot f(x)= x^2 and f(x-1) = (x-1)^2 and find where they intersect the x/y axis, it does make sense. But the book I'm reading (Stewarts) confuses me with the following:"Likewise, if g(x) = f(x-c), c>0, then the value of g at x is the same as the value of f at x-c. Therefore, the graph of y= f(x-c) is just the graph of y=f(x) shifted c units to the right"

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The first part does not confuse me at all. If you have g(x), and at the point x it is the same value as the function f at the point x-c, then it will be the same function f, shifted to the right c units.

For the second part please let me know if I am understanding correctly:

It would be like starting with just your graph of the coordinate system, y and x, and then compressing x like it is a spring, by c units. then you draw your function, and let go of he spring. now you have your original axis, with the function shifted and the max height of the spring is where your function is suppose to be graphed on your original axis
 
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Hmm it seems like its best to just look at it in terms of a number line. x-3 = 0 means x is located at location 3 despite the -.
 
r0bHadz said:

Homework Statement


I mean, it does make sense, if I plot f(x)= x^2 and f(x-1) = (x-1)^2 and find where they intersect the x/y axis, it does make sense. But the book I'm reading (Stewarts) confuses me with the following:"Likewise, if g(x) = f(x-c), c>0, then the value of g at x is the same as the value of f at x-c. Therefore, the graph of y= f(x-c) is just the graph of y=f(x) shifted c units to the right"

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


The first part does not confuse me at all. If you have g(x), and at the point x it is the same value as the function f at the point x-c, then it will be the same function f, shifted to the right c units.

For the second part please let me know if I am understanding correctly:

It would be like starting with just your graph of the coordinate system, y and x, and then compressing x like it is a spring, by c units. then you draw your function, and let go of he spring. now you have your original axis, with the function shifted and the max height of the spring is where your function is suppose to be graphed on your original axis

You can easily figure all this out for yourself---and doing that is the very best way to learn! Just take some simple ##f(x)## and plot the graphs of ##y = f(x)## and ##y = f(x-c)## for some numerical value of ##c## (such as ##c=1## or ##c = -1##). When you do that, what do you see?
 
r0bHadz said:

Homework Statement


I mean, it does make sense, if I plot f(x)= x^2 and f(x-1) = (x-1)^2 and find where they intersect the x/y axis, it does make sense. But the book I'm reading (Stewarts) confuses me with the following:"Likewise, if g(x) = f(x-c), c>0, then the value of g at x is the same as the value of f at x-c. Therefore, the graph of y= f(x-c) is just the graph of y=f(x) shifted c units to the right"

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


The first part does not confuse me at all. If you have g(x), and at the point x it is the same value as the function f at the point x-c, then it will be the same function f, shifted to the right c units.

For the second part please let me know if I am understanding correctly:

It would be like starting with just your graph of the coordinate system, y and x, and then compressing x like it is a spring, by c units. then you draw your function, and let go of he spring. now you have your original axis, with the function shifted and the max height of the spring is where your function is suppose to be graphed on your original axis

I don't believe the graph is compressed like a spring as you originally stated, but rather shifted to the right without changing any other properties of the graph. Compressions come up when f(x) is multiplied by constants, not when they are added or subtracted
 

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