Amount of lengths between k points

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The discussion centers around determining the total number of lengths between k points on a straight line. Participants explore the implications of increasing the number of points and seek to understand the underlying patterns and proofs related to the number of lengths formed by these points.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how many lengths exist between k points, starting with the case of k=2 and extending to larger values of k.
  • Another participant provides examples for k=3, k=4, and k=5, listing the pairs of points that represent the lengths between them.
  • A participant notes a potential pattern in the number of additional distances as k increases, suggesting that moving from k=2 to k=3 adds 2 distances, and moving to k=4 adds 3 distances.
  • However, another participant challenges this observation by stating that k=4 results in 6 lengths and k=5 results in 10 lengths, indicating a discrepancy with the previously suggested pattern.
  • One participant introduces the concept of combinations, stating that for k points, the number of ways to choose 2 points is given by the binomial coefficient, specifically noting the calculations for k=3 and k=4.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the pattern of lengths as k increases, with some suggesting a consistent addition of distances while others point out inconsistencies. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact nature of the relationship between k and the total number of lengths.

Contextual Notes

Participants assume that the points are distinct, but there is no consensus on the specific locations of the points or how they affect the calculation of lengths.

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Say that there lies k points upon a straight line.

My question is this: what is the total amount of lengths between these points?

To elaborate, say k is 2; there are two points and so there is only one length between the two points. How many lengths would there be with k > 2?

What is the proof for a solution to this?
 
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Einstein's Cat said:
Say that there lies k points upon a straight line.

My question is this: what is the total amount of lengths between these points?

To elaborate, say k is 2; there are two points and so there is only one length between the two points. How many lengths would there be with k > 2?

What is the proof for a solution to this?
What do you get if there are three points? Four? Five?

BTW, it's probably reasonable to assume that the points are all distinct.
 
Mark44 said:
What do you get if there are three points? Four? Five?

BTW, it's probably reasonable to assume that the points are all distinct.
I can represent each length between points like this for k= 3 (each pair of integers represents the length between the points that are labelled such)

1, 2
1,3
2,3

for k= 4:

1,2
1,3
1,4
2,3
2,4
3,4

for k= 5

1,2
1,3
1,4
1,5
2,3
2,4
2,5
3,4
3,5
4,5
 
Going from k=2 with 1 distance to k=3, you got 2 additional distances (those to the additional point). Going to k=4, you got 3 additional distances. Do you see a pattern?

Edit: Typo
 
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however k=4 gave 6 lengths and k=5 gave 10, this defies such a pattern surely?
All is well
 
Einstein's Cat said:
I can represent each length between points like this for k= 3 (each pair of integers represents the length between the points that are labelled such)

1, 2
1,3
2,3

for k= 4:

1,2
1,3
1,4
2,3
2,4
3,4

for k= 5

1,2
1,3
1,4
1,5
2,3
2,4
2,5
3,4
3,5
4,5
You need to be more specific about where the points are located. In your example for k = 3, the points appear to be at 1, 2, and 3 units, respectively. For three points, there are ##\binom 3 2## ways (the number of combinations of 3 things taken 2 at a time) of choosing two points among the three, where ##\binom 3 2 = \frac{3!}{2! 1!}## . For four points, there are ##\binom 4 2 = \frac{4!}{2! 2!}## = 6 ways. For each pairing of points, you need to calculate the distance between the two points.
 

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