An approach to conservation of electrical mechanical energy

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The problem involves a point charge and a small sphere with mass and charge, focusing on the application of conservation of energy principles in an electrostatic context. The original poster questions the validity of using conservation of energy when external work is done on the system.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the role of external work in the conservation of energy equation and whether it should be included in the analysis. There are inquiries about the nature of the external force and its classification as conservative or non-conservative.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the implications of external work on the conservation of energy principle. Some have provided analogies to gravitational potential energy to clarify their points, but there is no explicit consensus on how to approach the problem.

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There is a focus on understanding the contributions of external forces and potential energy in the context of the problem, with references to the initial conditions of the system and the nature of the forces involved.

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Homework Statement



A point charge q1=5μC is held fixed in space. From a horizontal distance of 6.00 cm, a small sphere with mass 4g and charge 2μC is fired toward the fixed charge with an initial speed of 40.0 m/s. Gravity can be neglected. What is the acceleration of the sphere at the instant when its speed is 25.0 m/s?

Homework Equations



Conservation of Energy and Coulomb's law

The Attempt at a Solution



I am able to solve the full question but I am wondering is it possible to use conservation of energy in this case. I mean the work has been done by an external force, so how is it possible to say
Ka+Ua = Kb+Ub ALONE... Shouldn't we add W other to the initial mechanical energy? If someone can explain with analogy to gravity, it would be great too :)
 
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ehabmozart said:
I am able to solve the full question but I am wondering is it possible to use conservation of energy in this case. I mean the work has been done by an external force, so how is it possible to say
Ka+Ua = Kb+Ub ALONE... Shouldn't we add W other to the initial mechanical energy? If someone can explain with analogy to gravity, it would be great too :)

What is the work done here (what is W)? Who/what is the external agent?
 
Sunil Simha said:
What is the work done here (what is W)? Who/what is the external agent?

The external agent is the force given by the firing.. It is not a conservative force?
 
ehabmozart said:
The external agent is the force given by the firing.. It is not a conservative force?

Say the 2μC sphere is a bullet, the gun and the bullet are at rest right? So all the work that the guy holding the gun to bring the bullet up to the point of firing has simply gone into increasing the potential energy of the bullet (while bringing it from infinity to that point). So W is simply the potential energy at that point.
 
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