An detail in proving the homotopy invariance of homology

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The discussion revolves around the proof of homotopy invariance of homology, specifically focusing on the construction of prism operators as described in Allen Hatcher's topology book. Participants are examining the mathematical details of how certain mappings and compositions are defined in the context of homotopy and simplicial complexes.

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  • One participant questions the action of the composition \(\sigma \times 1\) on the \(n+1\) simplex and seeks clarification on the role of the identity map in this context.
  • Another participant explains that \(\sigma\) acts on the first factor of the product space while the identity map acts on the second factor, indicating that forming product spaces is a functorial operation.
  • A further inquiry is made about the specific meaning of \((\sigma \times 1)|[v_0,...,v_i,w_i,...,w_n]\) and which vertex the identity acts upon in the \(n+1\) simplex.
  • One participant suggests that the identity presumably acts on the last vertex of the simplex, but does not provide a definitive answer.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the specific action of the identity map in the context of the prism operators, indicating that there is no consensus on this point. Multiple interpretations are being explored.

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The discussion involves technical details that may depend on the definitions and assumptions related to simplicial complexes and homotopy theory. The exact implications of the mappings and their actions remain unresolved.

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I'm reading Allen Hatcher's topology book.In order to prove a theorem about homotopic maps induce the same homomorphism of homology groups,given a homotopy F:X \times I \to Y from f to g,the author construct a prism operators
P:C_n (X) \to C_{n + 1} (Y) by P(\sigma ) = \sum\nolimits_i {( - 1)^i F \circ (\sigma \times 1)|[v_0 ,...,v_i ,w_i ,...,w_n ]} for \sigma :\Delta ^n \to X,where {F \circ (\sigma \times 1)} is the composition \Delta ^n \times I \to X \times I \to Y.

I don't understand how sigma*1 acts on the n+1 simplex,sigma acts on n simplex,what the 1 acts on?WhyF \circ (\sigma \times 1)|[\mathop v\limits^ \wedge _0 ,w_0 ,...,w_n ] equals to g \circ \sigma = g_\# (\sigma )

Need helps,thank you!
 
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well the domain space is a product, so sigma acts on the first factor, and "1" which is apparently the identity map, acts on the second factor.

i.e. forming product spaces is a functor. two spaces X,Y get changed into the space XxY,

and two maps f:X-->Z, g:Y-->W get changed into the map (fxg):XxY-->ZxW,

where (fxg)(x,y) = (f(x),g(y)).
 
Yes,'1' is the identity on the I, but what does (\sigma \times {\rm{1}})|[{\rm{v}}_0 ,...,{\rm{v}}_i ,{\rm{w}}_i ,...,{\rm{w}}_n ] means? [v0,...,v_i,w_i,...,w_n] is a n+1 simplex,what vertex of it the '1' act on?

Thank you!
 
well from its position presumably it acts on the last one. see what works.
 

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