Analyzing Acceleration in a Particle's Spiral Motion

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The discussion revolves around a particle's motion along a spiral trajectory defined by the equation r=Aθ, with A being a constant. The problem involves analyzing the radial and tangential accelerations of the particle, particularly at specific angles, including θ=1/√2 rad.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the equations for radial and tangential acceleration, questioning the definitions and relationships between angular and radial acceleration. Some express uncertainty about the values of constants and how to apply the equations to the problem.

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The conversation includes attempts to clarify the relationships between different types of acceleration and the relevant equations. Some participants have provided guidance on substituting values into the equations, while others are still seeking clarity on specific terms and their meanings.

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There is a noted lack of clarity regarding the values of constants such as α and the implications of the given equations. Participants are also exploring the definitions of angular and radial acceleration, which may lead to confusion in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A particle moves outward along a spiral. Its trajectory is given by r=Aθ, where A is a constant. A=1/π m/rad. θ increases in time according to θ=αt^2/2, where α is a constant.
Show that the radial acceleration is zero when θ=1/√2 rad. At what angles do the radial and tangential accelerations have equal magnitude?

Homework Equations



[tex]\frac{d\mathbf{r}}{dt} = \dot r\hat{\mathbf{r}} + r\dot\theta\hat{\boldsymbol\theta}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{d^2\mathbf{r}}{dt^2} = (\ddot r - r\dot\theta^2)\hat{\mathbf{r}} + (r\ddot\theta + 2\dot r \dot\theta)\hat{\boldsymbol\theta}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried plugging things into the second equation. However, I don't know what t and α are, which is why I am stuck. I also tried substitution, but that didn't really get me anywhere either.
 
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What are the values of a and A?
 
learningphysics said:
What are the values of a and A?

a is supposed to be alpha, an unknown constant. A is equal to 1/(pi) m/rad.
 
The angular acceleration is: [tex]\frac{d^2R}{dt^2} - R(\frac{d\theta}{dt})^2[/tex]. substitute your values for R and [tex]\theta[/tex] into this equation and simplify as much as you can.

Finally substitute in the value for theta 1/sqrt(2).
 
learningphysics said:
The angular acceleration is: [tex]\frac{d^2R}{dt^2} - R(\frac{d\theta}{dt})^2[/tex]. substitute your values for R and [tex]\theta[/tex] into this equation and simplify as much as you can.

Finally substitute in the value for theta 1/sqrt(2).

Is angular acceleration the same as radial acceleration? Also, what is the equation for tangential acceleration? I just changed my original comment. The relevant equations are

[tex]\frac{d\mathbf{r}}{dt} = \dot r\hat{\mathbf{r}} + r\dot\theta\hat{\boldsymbol\theta}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{d^2\mathbf{r}}{dt^2} = (\ddot r - r\dot\theta^2)\hat{\mathbf{r}} + (r\ddot\theta + 2\dot r \dot\theta)\hat{\boldsymbol\theta}[/tex]
 
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amstrf89 said:
Is angular acceleration the same as radial acceleration? Also, what is the equation for tangential acceleration?

Oops, I meant to write radial acceleration... yeah, that formula I posted is radial acceleration.

tangential acceleration is: 2*dr/dt*w+r*d(w)/dt, where w = dtheta/dt... I looked this up here: http://aemes.mae.ufl.edu/~uhk/DYNAMICS.html because I couldn't remember it.
 
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What is this part of the equation: [tex]\((r\ddot\theta + 2\dot r \dot\theta)\hat{\boldsymbol\theta}[/tex]?
 
amstrf89 said:
What is this part of the equation: [tex]\((r\ddot\theta + 2\dot r \dot\theta)\hat{\boldsymbol\theta}[/tex]?

That's tangential acceleration.

This is radial acceleration:
[tex](\ddot r - r\dot\theta^2)\hat{\mathbf{r}}[/tex]
 
Thanks for the help. I think I figured it out.
 
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amstrf89 said:
Thanks for the help. I think I figured it out.

Cool. no prob.
 

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