Angle below horizontal projectile question

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A ball rolls off a 9.0m building at a velocity of 22m/s, angled 32° below the horizontal, and the goal is to determine how far it lands from the base. The calculations involve using kinematic equations, with the initial vertical velocity calculated as -11.658m/s and gravity as -9.81m/s². The time of flight was incorrectly calculated, leading to a distance of 6.5m instead of the expected 11m. Consistency in sign conventions for velocity and acceleration is crucial for accurate results. The discussion highlights the importance of careful calculations and sign usage in physics problems.
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Homework Statement


  • a ball rolls off an incline on top of a 9.0m building
  • at a velocity of 22m/s
  • 32° below the horizontal
  • how far from the base of the building will the ball hit the ground?
  • [ANS = 11m)

Homework Equations


  • vf^2 = vi^2 + 2ad
  • d = ((vf+vi)/2)t
  • d = vt

The Attempt at a Solution


  • x (um)
    • v = 22cos32 = 18.657...m/s
  • y (uam)
    • a = -9.81m/s^2
    • vi = -22sin32 = -11.658...m/s
    • d = 9.0m

  • vf^2 = vi^2 + 2ad
vf^2 = (-11.658...m/s)^2 + (2*-9.81m/s^2*-9.0m)
vf^2 = 312.494...m^2/s^2
vf = 17.677...m/s

  • d = ((vf+vi)/2)t
d=((vf+vi)/2)t
-9.0m = ((17.677...m/s - 11.658...m/s)/2)t
t = ((17.677...m/s - 11.658...m/s)/2) / 9.0m
t = 0.334...s

  • d = vt
d = (18.657...m/s)(0.334...s)
d = 6.495...m
d = 6.5m

I'm not sure where I made my mistake since I am about 4.5m off.
 

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Vi.y is positive (same direction as gravity, which you made positive)

Or if you made gravity negative, then Vf.y should be negative.

Either way it needs to be consistent.
 
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jdang said:
vf^2 = (-11.658...m/s)^2 + (2*-9.81m/s^2*-9.0m)
vf^2 = 312.494...m^2/s^2
vf = 17.677...m/s
When taking a square root, you have two choices of sign. Which sign is appropriate here?
-9.0m = ((17.677...m/s - 11.658...m/s)/2)t
t = ((17.677...m/s - 11.658...m/s)/2) / 9.0m

You didn't solve for t correctly here.
 
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Nathanael said:
Vi.y is positive (same direction as gravity, which you made positive)

Or if you made gravity negative, then Vf.y should be negative.

Either way it needs to be consistent.
Sorry, I calculated it negative but I forgot to type it up with the negative sign. I will make vfy negative, thank you!
 
TSny said:
When taking a square root, you have two choices of sign. Which sign is appropriate here?

You didn't solve for t correctly here.
Thank you!
 
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