Angular Acceleration (I don't see HOW I can be wrong?)

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem involving angular acceleration related to a horizontal board pivoted at one end. The scenario includes the board's mass, length, and the effects of gravity after a supporting string is cut. Participants are exploring the concepts of torque, moment of inertia, and angular motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of angular motion equations, including torque and moment of inertia. There are attempts to calculate angular acceleration using different approaches, including tangential acceleration and torque equations. Questions arise regarding the forces acting on the board and the assumptions made about the acceleration due to gravity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing alternative calculations and questioning the assumptions about forces acting on the board. There is recognition of potential errors in reasoning, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that gravity is not the only force acting on the board, which complicates the calculations. There is also mention of specific values and formulas that have been used, but the original poster expresses frustration over not arriving at the expected answer.

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My friend in introductory physics came to me for help today. He has a test on angular momentum, acceleration etc. I figured, with me in upper-division physics courses, I'd be able to help him out. Well, I guess I was dead wrong. In half an hour I couldn't figure out a SINGLE THING. I don't see how my answers could be wrong. Everything I tried did not line up with that his professors answers were.

Homework Statement



We have a horizontal board of length 2.4 meters and mass 1.8 kg connected on the left side to a pivot point, and was suspended by some string at the other side. The string is cut, and we are to find the initial angular acceleration of the board. Sounds easy enough... as the initial acceleration is just due to gravity, the only force now acting on the board.

Homework Equations



A lot of formulas were provided, a tangential = r*a angular, t=I(angular a) t=rF. Standard equations for angular rotation.

The Attempt at a Solution



At first I tried simple a tangential = r a angular. I used g for the tangential acceleration and the r I used was both the full length of the board, and the cm length (l/2). Either way, I didn't get the 6.13 rad/s that the answer supposedly was.

Next I tried using I(a)=rF, where F is due to gravity, the r was at the cm length. The I was 1/3ML^2, where L is the length of the board, M is the mass of the board (1.8 kg). I STILL did not get the correct answer.

I'm out of ideas now, and even though this isn't my class, I still want to know why can't I get basic physics right? It's times like these that I feel like I've learned absolutely nothing as a physics major over the two-three years I've been in the department.
 
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Isn't it just the torque divided by the moment of inertia? I think the torque is (gML)/2 and the moment is (ML^2)/3 which would give 3g/2L as the answer.
 
Yes, 3g/2L it is.
 
Lucretius said:
Sounds easy enough... as the initial acceleration is just due to gravity, the only force now acting on the board.
Gravity is not the only force on the board--you still have a force from the pivot. Accordingly, the acceleration of the center of mass does not equal g.
At first I tried simple a tangential = r a angular. I used g for the tangential acceleration and the r I used was both the full length of the board, and the cm length (l/2). Either way, I didn't get the 6.13 rad/s that the answer supposedly was.
This won't work, for reasons stated above.
Next I tried using I(a)=rF, where F is due to gravity, the r was at the cm length. The I was 1/3ML^2, where L is the length of the board, M is the mass of the board (1.8 kg). I STILL did not get the correct answer.
This is perfectly correct, so you must have made an error somewhere.
 

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