Angular and Linear Speed....Part 1

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The discussion revolves around calculating angular and linear speeds of a wheel given its rate of rotation and radius. Participants explore the formulas for angular speed and linear speed, addressing specific parts of a problem related to these concepts.

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  • One participant calculates angular speed using the formula w = θ/t and expresses uncertainty about unit conversion, suggesting a potential error in their calculations.
  • Another participant provides a detailed calculation for angular speed, confirming the book's answer and clarifying the conversion from revolutions per minute to radians per second.
  • Linear speed is calculated using the arc length formula, with one participant expressing confusion over their results compared to the book's answers.
  • Several participants reiterate the formula v = ωr for linear speed, applying it to both the circumference and halfway between the center and circumference of the wheel.
  • Questions arise regarding the origin of the value 50 pi/3 in the angular speed calculation, with participants discussing the necessity of dividing by 60 for the conversion from minutes to seconds.

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There is no consensus on the calculations presented, as participants express confusion and seek clarification on the correct application of formulas and unit conversions. Disagreement exists regarding the interpretation of the angular speed calculation.

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Participants highlight the importance of unit conversion in their calculations, particularly the transition from revolutions per minute to radians per second, which remains a point of contention.

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Students and individuals interested in understanding angular and linear speed calculations, particularly in the context of rotational motion in physics.

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You are given the rate of rotation of a wheel as well as its radius. For A-C, determine the following:

A. The angular speed, in units of radians/sec.

B. The linear speed, in units of cm/sec, of a point on the circumference of the wheel.

C. The linear speed, in cm/sec, of a point halfway between the center of the wheel and the circumference.

I will now post my effort.

Given: 500 rpm; r = 45 cm

Part A

The angular speed formula is w = θ/t.

I know that 1 revolution = 2pi radians.

I need θ.

θ = 500 (2pi radians)

θ = 1,000 pi radians.

w = 1,000 pi radians/sec

Book's answer is [50 pi/3] radians/sec. Something tells me that I needed to convert seconds to minutes. Yes?

Part B

I used the arc length formula, s = θr, as step 1.

s = (1,000 pi radians)(45 cm)

s = 45,000 pi cm = d

The letter d represents the distance in time t in the linear speed formula v = d/t.

v = 45,000 pi cm/sec is my answer.

Book's answer for Part B is 750 pi cm/sec.
Again, I am thinking that the units of conversation needed to be changed. Yes?

Part C

s = θr

s = (1,000 pi radians)(22.5 cm)

The decimal 22.5 came from dividing the radius in half in terms of the instructions for Part C above.

s = 22,500 pi cm = d

v = d/t

v = 22,500 pi cm/sec

Book's answer is 375 pi cm/sec.
 
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A. $$\omega=\frac{\theta}{t}$$

$$\omega=\frac{500\text{ rev}}{1\text{ min}}\cdot\frac{2\pi\text{ rad}}{1\text{ rev}}\cdot\frac{1\text{ min}}{60\text{ s}}=\frac{50\pi}{3}\,\frac{\text{rad}}{\text{s}}$$

B. $$v=\omega r$$

$$v=\left(\frac{50\pi}{3}\,\frac{\text{rad}}{\text{s}}\right)\left(45\text{ cm}\right)=750\pi\frac{\text{cm}}{\text{s}}$$

C. $$v=\omega r$$

$$v=\left(\frac{50\pi}{3}\,\frac{\text{rad}}{\text{s}}\right)\left(\frac{45}{2}\text{ cm}\right)=375\pi\frac{\text{cm}}{\text{s}}$$
 
MarkFL said:
A. $$\omega=\frac{\theta}{t}$$

$$\omega=\frac{500\text{ rev}}{1\text{ min}}\cdot\frac{2\pi\text{ rad}}{1\text{ rev}}\cdot\frac{1\text{ min}}{60\text{ s}}=\frac{50\pi}{3}\,\frac{\text{rad}}{\text{s}}$$

B. $$v=\omega r$$

$$v=\left(\frac{50\pi}{3}\,\frac{\text{rad}}{\text{s}}\right)\left(45\text{ cm}\right)=750\pi\frac{\text{cm}}{\text{s}}$$

C. $$v=\omega r$$

$$v=\left(\frac{50\pi}{3}\,\frac{\text{rad}}{\text{s}}\right)\left(\frac{45}{2}\text{ cm}\right)=375\pi\frac{\text{cm}}{\text{s}}$$

I follow everything you did here except for Part A.
Where did 50 pi/3 come from? Don't we multiply 500 rpm by 2 pi radians? Is 500 rpm • 2 pi radians not equal to 1,000 pi radians?
 
RTCNTC said:
I follow everything you did here except for Part A.
Where did 50 pi/3 come from? Don't we multiply 500 rpm by 2 pi radians? Is 500 rpm • 2 pi radians not equal to 1,000 pi radians?

Yes, but we also must divide by 60, and then reduce the fraction. :)
 
Oh boy! I better go back to 5th grade math.
 

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