Angular Momentum and Eigenfunctions

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The discussion focuses on the concepts of angular momentum in classical and quantum mechanics, specifically addressing the momentum operator and its implications for a particle's angular momentum. The classical momentum operator is defined as ##\vec L = \vec r \times \vec p##, while the quantum version is ##\vec L = -i\hbar \vec r \times \vec \nabla##. The particle exhibits zero angular momentum, as indicated by the expectation value ##\langle L_z \rangle = 0## along the z-axis, while the x-axis shows non-zero values. Participants emphasize the need for brute force integration to determine expectation values, particularly for ##\langle L_x \rangle##.

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Homework Statement



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Part (a): What is momentum operator classically and in quantum?
Part (b): Show the particle has 0 angular momentum.
Part (c): Determine whether angular momentum is present along: (i)z-axis, (ii) x-axis and find expectation values <Lz> and <Lx>.
Part (d): Find the result of finding Lz then Lx.
Part (e): Find the result of finding Lx then Lz.

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The Attempt at a Solution



Part (a)
Classically, ##\vec L = \vec r x \vec p##.
Quantum mechanically, ##\vec L = -i\hbar \vec r x \vec \nabla##.

Part (b)
Since ##L^2## is the angular part of ##\nabla^2 = -\frac{1}{sin \theta}\frac{\partial}{\partial \theta}\left(sin \theta \frac{\partial}{\partial \theta}\right) + \frac{1}{sin^2\theta}\frac{\partial^2}{\partial \theta^2}##, it has no radial dependence.

So ##\langle \psi|L^2|\psi\rangle = 0##.

Part (c)

Along z-axis, it is zero, since ##L_z = -i\hbar \frac{\partial}{\partial \phi}##.

Along x-axis, it is non-zero, since ##L_x## is a function of both ##(\theta, \phi)##.

Expectation value ##\langle L_z\rangle = 0##.

I'm not sure how to find the expectation value ##\langle L_x \rangle## without using brute force integration. Is there a trick somewhere I've missed?The rest of the question boggles me very much. Would appreciate any help!
 
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unscientific said:
Part (a)
Classically, ##\vec L = \vec r x \vec p##.
Quantum mechanically, ##\vec L = -i\hbar \vec r x \vec \nabla##.
FYI, you can use the "times" macro in Latex instead of your ##x##. That makes things look nicer:
##\vec L = \vec r \times \vec p##
##\vec L = -i\hbar \vec r \times \vec \nabla##

I'm not sure how to find the expectation value ##\langle L_x \rangle## without using brute force integration. Is there a trick somewhere I've missed?

The rest of the question boggles me very much.
You have the expression ##\vec L = -i\hbar \vec r \times \vec \nabla##. Can you re-write this in x,y,z component form, i.e.,
## L_x ~=~ \dots\text{what?}\dots##
(Hint: use the definition of the ##\times## cross-product.)

Then apply the operator ##L_x## to your wave function. It's probably best for your education if you work it out by brute force first, then look to see if there's any shortcuts for subsequent parts of the question.
 
(a) not bad ... in LaTeX the cross-product is provided by "\times" so:
classically: ##\vec L = \vec r \times \vec p##
QM: ##\hat L = \hat r\times \hat p = -i\hbar(\vec r \times \vec \nabla)## ... remember that ##\hat L## is an operator. The angular momentum is the result of using the operator.

(b) the statement is kinda correct - but it does not quite answer the question.
note: just because the operator has no radial dependence does not mean that the result of applying the operator to the wavefunction will have no radial dependence,

I suspect you are expected to work the problem in cartesian coordinates - though the spherical argument is a nice one.

(c) No pain no gain: you'll have to use the brute force integration.
This one may actually be easier in Cartesian coordinates or cylindrical-polar.

[edit: strangerep beat me to it]
 

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