Angular position vs. time graph

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The discussion revolves around converting an angular velocity vs. time graph to an angular position vs. time graph. Participants explore the relationships between angular velocity, angular acceleration, and their respective graphical representations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between angular velocity and position, noting that the area under the angular velocity graph represents angular position. There are attempts to clarify how to calculate these areas and their implications on the graph.

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The conversation includes various interpretations of the problem, with some participants providing guidance on calculating areas under the graphs to derive angular position. There is acknowledgment of confusion regarding the conversion process, and some participants express gratitude for the assistance received.

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Some participants mention specific values and calculations related to the areas under the graphs, indicating a focus on understanding the graphical representation of motion. There is a noted complexity in calculating areas for different shapes, such as triangles, which may affect the overall understanding of angular position.

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i am having trouble converting an angular v vs. time to position vs. time graph. i know that the slope of the position is the velocity but the velocity graph has line going up and down.

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v v.s t = slope of p vs. t
 

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ω = v/r so your ω vs t graph is a v/r vs t graph.
A unit of area under it represents vt/r or distance/r
Thus the area needs to be multiplied by r to get the distance (position - initial position).
 
Delphi51 said:
ω = v/r so your ω vs t graph is a v/r vs t graph.
A unit of area under it represents vt/r or distance/r
Thus the area needs to be multiplied by r to get the distance (position - initial position).

i am still confused...i have attached a sample...how would you draw the angular position vs. time and angular velocity vs. time.
 
Oh, that is completely different from what I thought you asked!
No conversion from rotational to linear.
To go from angular acceleration to angular velocity, simply do the area under the graph. So in the first 0.5 s, the area is 0.4*0.5 = 0.2. On your ω vs t graph, you now have a point (0,0) assuming it starts with initial ω = 0, and a point (0.5,0.2). During this time the acceleration was constant so the ω should increase linearly (as in ω = α*t) so you can join the two points with a straight line.

When you do the next half second, note that the area is negative (below the zero line) and that this negative area must be added to the previous area (0.2 - 0.2 = 0) so your total area to time 1 second is zero. Third point(1,0).
The usual technique is to write in the areas for each half second and then sum them to get the points on the angular velocity graph.
 
Delphi51 said:
Oh, that is completely different from what I thought you asked!
No conversion from rotational to linear.
To go from angular acceleration to angular velocity, simply do the area under the graph. So in the first 0.5 s, the area is 0.4*0.5 = 0.2. On your ω vs t graph, you now have a point (0,0) assuming it starts with initial ω = 0, and a point (0.5,0.2). During this time the acceleration was constant so the ω should increase linearly (as in ω = α*t) so you can join the two points with a straight line.

When you do the next half second, note that the area is negative (below the zero line) and that this negative area must be added to the previous area (0.2 - 0.2 = 0) so your total area to time 1 second is zero. Third point(1,0).
The usual technique is to write in the areas for each half second and then sum them to get the points on the angular velocity graph.

thanks that really did help...nbut how about angular position vs. time
 
Take the area under the angular velocity graph to get angular position.
The areas will be a bit harder - area of a triangle is half the base times the height.
For accelerated motion, the angular position will increase parabolically so you'll have curved sections on the graph.
 
Delphi51 said:
Take the area under the angular velocity graph to get angular position.
The areas will be a bit harder - area of a triangle is half the base times the height.
For accelerated motion, the angular position will increase parabolically so you'll have curved sections on the graph.

ok..thanks a lot...iit really helped
 

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