A Angular power spectrum dependence in redshift z and k

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The discussion centers on the relationship between the angular power spectrum C_l and the 3D power spectrum P(k), particularly regarding the variables z and z'. There is confusion about whether z and z' represent redshift and how they relate to the multipole moment l. Participants clarify that C_l is likely the angular correlation function, while P(k) may not represent the linear matter power spectrum but rather the temperature power spectrum. The conversation also touches on the need for a complete formula linking C_l and P(k) and the role of spherical Bessel functions in this context. Overall, the thread seeks to clarify these complex relationships in cosmological power spectrum analysis.
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Hi,

I wanted to have a precision about a question that has been post on this relation between P(k) and C_l

The author writes the ##C_\ell## like this :

$$C_\ell(z,z') = \int_0^\infty dkk^2 j_\ell(kz)j_\ell(kz')P(k)$$

I don't undertstand the meaning of ##z## and ##z'## : these are not redshift, are they ?

Normally, it should depend of the multipole ##\ell## but how to make the link between these 2 quantities ##z## and ##z'## and multipole ##\ell##.
Moreover, does the ##P(k)## represent systematically the linear matter power spectrum ? or can we add RSD (Redshift Space Distorsions) like Kaiser or alcock-paczynski effects ?

Thanks for your clarifications and explanations.

Regards
Source https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/relationship-between-the-angular-and-3d-power-spectra.993041/
 
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I think there's a mistake there. I suspect the left hand side is not ##C_\ell##, but the angular correlation function, which is a function of the difference between two angles on the sky, with ##z## and ##z'## being unit vectors.

That said, I don't think this is the way things are currently done. Current power spectrum calculations are based on this paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/9603033
 
@kimbyd .Thanks for your quick answer.

I have looked at your paper and notice that passing :
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From what you seem to say, the ##C(\theta)## on the left would represent the angular correlation function, wouldn't it ?

and in the right term member would appear ##C_{\ell}## which would be the Angular Power spectrum ?

If this is the case, How could I express ##C_{\ell}## from ##C(\theta)##.

Your help will be precious, thanks in advance.
 
Equation 10 there is a reversible transformation. The orthogonality condition is described here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legendre_polynomials#Orthogonality_and_completeness

There's a notational difference there, in part driven by the argument being ##x## rather than ##cos(\theta)##, but it shouldn't be too difficult to take a simple example (e.g. ##P_1##), do the integrals manually, and see what the normalization factor needs to be.
 
Just a precision :

in the link that I gave firstly in my post ( https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/relationship-between-the-angular-and-3d-power-spectra.993041 )

Why does the writter say "How to write the 3D power spectrum, P(k), as an integral of the angular power spectrum, C_l ?"

whereas from kimbyd, it is not the direct relation beween angular power spectrum ##C_{\ell}## and matter power spectrum ##P_{k}##

By, the way, could anyone write the complete formula that links these 2 quantities (##C_{\ell}## and ##P_{k}##) ?

I would be grateful since I am a little confused between angualr correlation function and matter power spectrum and spherical Bessel functions.

Any help would be great, I am begin to desperate.

Best regards
 
I don't think ##P(k)## there is the matter power spectrum. It's still the temperature power spectrum, just represented differently.

The relationship between ##P(k)## and ##C_\ell## is that ##C_\ell## results from the intersection of the 3D power spectrum ##P(k)## with the surface of last scattering.

I believe the equation was written above.
 
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