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Bimbar
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Are there groupd of animals that are veryvery 'local' ? if another animanl lives in that local-breained comnity ? What will happern ? Will that animal die ?
Animal Localities: Can Other Animals Survive?
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Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the concept of local animal communities and the implications of introducing other animals into these environments. It explores ecological niches, competition, and adaptation among species, as well as the social dynamics that may arise in human contexts.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Conceptual clarification
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant questions whether animals that are very 'local' can coexist with other species in their community, speculating on the potential outcomes for the introduced animal.
- Another participant draws a parallel to human society, suggesting that a "local-minded" attitude can lead to discrimination and that adaptation is crucial for survival, with natural selection playing a role in eliminating less fitting traits.
- A third participant explains the ecological concept of niches, stating that competition occurs when two species overlap in resource requirements, which can lead to one species being forced into a narrower "realised niche." They reference the competitive exclusion principle, which posits that two species cannot occupy the same niche indefinitely.
- There is a suggestion that the original question may pertain to territoriality, indicating a possible misunderstanding of the initial inquiry.
- A later reply reiterates the idea of territoriality and expresses frustration over the perceived lack of clarity in the discussion.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express varying interpretations of the original question, with some focusing on ecological competition and others on social dynamics. There is no consensus on the implications of introducing new animals into local communities, and the discussion remains unresolved.
Contextual Notes
There are limitations in the assumptions made about the nature of local communities and the definitions of ecological terms. The discussion does not fully explore the complexities of niche differentiation or the social implications of local-mindedness.
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Ohmydarling
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In case you talk about human society, "local-minded" is chracterized and displayed by individuals. "Local-minded" will lead to discrimination, and insults, I have seen many many cases like this. Adaptation will help survival and natural selection will gradually eliminate some features that do not fit.
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matthyaouw
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In ecology, organisms are said to occupy a niche, which is what you might describe as their place in an ecosystem, defined by what resources they require and are capable of utilising. If two animals occupy the same space and their niches overlap, i.e. they require any of the same resources, competition will occur. This could either be directly through fighting for space, nesting sites, food etc, or indirectly through gradual depletion of resources until their is a struggle to find enough. In this scenario, the organisms are forced from their "fundamental niche" (the whole range of conditions in which they can live) into what is called a "Realised niche", which is a narrower niche to which the organism is best adapted to survive. The competetive exclusion principle states that no two creatures can occupy the exact same nice for extended periods of time, and the best adapted one will survive, and the other may well die out. Organisms that aren't wiped out respond to this competition by evolving to fit a slightly different niche, for example if two species of bird occupy the same or similar niches, (say, fruit eaters,) they may gradually change to utilise different food sources, for example one may develop a longer bill to pick insects out of branches, and one may develop a stronger bill to crack open nuts and seeds, so the two no longer have to compete to the same extent and can more or less co-exist.
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jim mcnamara
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May be he means territory...
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matthyaouw
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jim mcnamara said:
You're probably right. Well, that's 10 minutes of my life thoroughly wasted.
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