Animals Beyond Visible Light & Infrared

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the capabilities of animal vision beyond the visible light spectrum and infrared, focusing on various species and their unique visual systems. Participants examine the types of light different animals can perceive, including ultraviolet and polarized light, and the implications for behaviors such as pollination and mating.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that bees and butterflies can see into the ultraviolet spectrum, while most animals have vision centered around the maximum solar output, which is yellow light.
  • It is mentioned that certain insects and animals, including pit vipers, can sense infrared, aiding in locating warm-blooded prey.
  • Participants discuss the concept of tetrachromacy in birds, suggesting that many birds, fish, and reptiles have evolved a four-color cone visual system, allowing them to perceive a wider range of colors than humans.
  • Snapping shrimp are highlighted for having an extraordinary number of color receptor cells, with some participants speculating on the implications for their perception and behavior.
  • There is mention of the ability of some animals to detect polarized light, although it is noted that this does not involve unusual wavelengths.
  • One participant provides a link to an article discussing how hummingbirds perceive colors that humans cannot, emphasizing the complexity of animal color vision.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that some animals have the ability to see beyond the visible spectrum, particularly in ultraviolet and infrared. However, there are competing views regarding the extent and implications of these capabilities, and the discussion remains unresolved on several points.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the specific capabilities of various species depend on definitions of color perception and may involve assumptions about the evolutionary context of these adaptations. The discussion includes references to external sources that may not be universally accepted.

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Do any animals see in a spectrum other than visible light and infrared?
 
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Bees and butterflies see into the ultraviolet. But as far as I know most animal vision is rather narrowly centered at the max solar ouput (yellow light).
 
Some animals, such as certain insects, can see into the near-UV, but as hutchphd said most animals see approximately the same spectrum as we do.
 
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While pit vipers may not really see they do sense infrared and are capable of finding warm blooded prey in the dark. Apparently some fish, insects, frogs, and vampire bats can "see" the infrared spectrum.
 
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Yeah. That's pretty much what I thought. Thanks.
 
hutchphd said:
Bees and butterflies see into the ultraviolet. But as far as I know most animal vision is rather narrowly centered at the max solar ouput (yellow light).
I found several images of how humans and bees view flowers differently.
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Here's one of a primrose, as seen by a human vs. as seen by a bee, according to Norwegian scientist-cameraman Bjorn Roslett, in the Daily Mail, https://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...-view-How-insects-flowers-differently-us.html. The image on the right is in ultraviolet, which is presumably the part of the spectrum that bees can see.
Because we cannot see UV light, the colours in these photographs are representational, but the patterns are real.
 
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Bees can see near UV which for them is called bee-purple.
Patterns on flowers can provide target patterns leading the bees to the pollen the flowers want (anthropomorphically speaking) the bees to find for pollination purposes.
A variety of animals can also see polarized light also. But not in unusual wavelengths.
 
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An interesting example will pop up if you make a search for 'hawk rodent urine trail' :wink:
 
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This is certainly interesting.

Hummingbirds see colours humans can only imagine | UBC Science - Faculty of Science at the University of British Columbia
The wide variety of nonspectral colours available to birds is the result of their ancient four colour cone visual system.

"Tetrachromacy — having four colour cone types — evolved in early vertebrates," said Stoddard. "This colour vision system is the norm for birds, many fish and reptiles, and it almost certainly existed in dinosaurs. We think the ability to perceive many nonspectral colours is not just a feat of hummingbirds but a widespread feature of animal colour vision.

For humans, purple is the clearest example of a nonspectral colour. Technically, purple is not in the rainbow: it arises when our blue (short-wave) and red (long-wave) cones are stimulated, but not green (medium-wave) cones. While humans perceive just one kind of nonspectral colour — purple — birds can theoretically see up to five: purple, ultraviolet+red, ultraviolet+green, ultraviolet+yellow and ultraviolet+purple.

https://science.ubc.ca/news/hummingbirds-see-colours-humans-can-only-imagine
 
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Snapping shrimp appear to win with 12 to 16 (yes, twelve to sixteen!) "color" receptor cells.
Some of the distinctions may be due to filtering of incoming light by lens chemicals before it gets to the photo receptive cells of the compound eye rather than different receptor molecules.
Some species can detect circularly polarized light.
Not all of the different colors may be combined into a single "colorized" image. Different photoreceptor cells project their connections to different parts of the snapping shrimp brain.
Some of these different "colors" may be involved in mating displays and attractions (which could be separate specialized systems in the brain (small though it be)).
 

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