Ann's question at Yahoo Answers (At most two roots)

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The discussion revolves around the question of whether the equation \(x^4 + 4x + c\) can have at most two real roots, exploring various mathematical approaches and reasoning related to this polynomial equation.

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  • One participant suggests that if there are three real roots, the conditions of Rolle's theorem would lead to a contradiction, as the derivative \(f'(x) = 4x^3 + 4\) has only one real root.
  • Another participant applies Descartes' rule of signs, arguing that if \(c\) is positive, the polynomial has no positive roots and at most two negative roots, while if \(c\) is negative, it has one positive and one negative root.
  • A different approach involves analyzing the function \(g(x) = x^4 + 4x\), noting its behavior at infinity and its minimum value, leading to a classification of the number of real roots based on the value of \(c\).

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Participants present multiple competing views on the number of roots based on different conditions of \(c\) and the application of mathematical theorems. The discussion remains unresolved as no consensus is reached on a definitive conclusion.

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Participants rely on different mathematical principles and theorems, such as Rolle's theorem and Descartes' rule of signs, which may depend on specific assumptions about the value of \(c\) and the nature of the roots.

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Hello Ann,

Suppose there are three real roots $a<b<d$, then all the hypothesis of the Rolle's theorem are satisfied for the function $f(x)=x^4 +4x+c$ on the intervals $[a,b]$ and $[b,d]$ so, there exists $\xi_1\in (a,b)$ and $\xi_2\in (b,d)$ such that $f'(\xi_1)=f'(\xi_2)=0$. But $$f'(x)=4x^3+4=0\Leftrightarrow x^3=-1\Leftrightarrow x=-1\quad\mbox{ (in }\mathbb{R})$$ We get a contradiction: $f'$ has at the 'same tine' only one real root and more than one real roots ($\xi_1\neq \xi_2)$.
 
Fernando Revilla said:
Here is a link to the question:

Show that the equation x^4 +4x+c has at most 2 roots? - Yahoo! Answers

I have posted a link there to this topic so the OP can find my response.
Assume \(c\) is positive Descartes rule of signs tell you this has no positive roots, and changing the signs of the coeficient of the odd power of x shows that it has at most two negative roots.

Now assume \(c\) is negative then Descartes rule of signs shows it has one positive and one negative root.
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Anoher way:

Denoting $g(x)=x^4+4x$, we have $$\lim_{x\to -\infty}g(x)=+\infty,\;\lim_{x\to +\infty}g(x)=+\infty,\;g'(x)=4(x-1)(x^2-x+1)$$ which implies $g$ has an absolute minimum at $(-1,-3)$. The intersection of the grpah of $g(x)$ with the graph of $y=-c$, easily provides the following information: $$\begin{aligned}&c\in (-\infty,0):\mbox{Two real roots (one positive and one negative)}\\&c=0: \mbox{ Two real roots }(x=-\sqrt[3]{4},x=-1)\\&c\in (0,3):\mbox{Two real roots (both negative)}\\&c=3:\mbox{One real roots }(x=-1)\\&c\in (3,+\infty):\mbox{No real roots}\end{aligned}$$ At any rate, and according to the question, it seems that the 'spirit' is to apply the Rolle Theorem (they only ask for the number of roots and not for more information).
 

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