Answer Lim(x->infinity)e^(-x)coshx and Lim(x->1)[(e^x-1)/In(x)]sinhx

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The discussion revolves around evaluating two limits: 1) Lim(x->infinity)e^(-x)coshx and 2) Lim(x->1)[(e^x-1)/In(x)]sinhx. Participants explore various approaches to these limits, including the application of L'Hôpital's rule and the behavior of the functions involved as they approach specific values.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests rewriting the first limit as e^(-x)/(1/coshx) and applying L'Hôpital's rule multiple times, noting that both the numerator and denominator approach 0.
  • Another participant proposes an alternative expression for the first limit, indicating it leads to a determinate form.
  • For the second limit, a participant mentions that both (e^x-1) and ln(x) approach infinity as x approaches 1, suggesting a need to check one-sided limits.
  • One participant calculates the value of sinh(1) and provides an approximate numerical result.
  • A later reply discusses the behavior of the limit involving sinh(x) and suggests that it approaches a constant rather than negative infinity, introducing a new variable k for clarity.
  • There is a question raised about the equality of the one-sided limits of 1/ln(x) as x approaches 1 from the left and right.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the evaluation of the limits. Multiple competing views and approaches are presented, particularly regarding the second limit and the behavior of the functions involved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the behavior of the limits and the application of L'Hôpital's rule, particularly in the context of one-sided limits and the conditions under which the limits are evaluated.

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Question:Determine 1.Lim(x->infinity)e^(-x)coshx
2.Lim(x->1)[(e^x-1)/In(x)]sinhx

For 1.=Lim(x->infinity)e^(-x)/(1/coshx) so the top and bottem both go to 0.then apply the rule. Repeat this procedure 3 times the top and bottem still both go to 0,so I am stuck.

2.Circumstance same as 1.I apply the rule 2 times and both the top and the bottem go to infinity.
 
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1.) I would write the expression as:

$$\frac{e^x+e^{-x}}{2e^x}=\frac{1+e^{-2x}}{2}$$

Now you have a determinate form.

2.) Substituting 1 for $x$ gives you a constant divided by zero...so check the one-sided limits.
 
MarkFL said:
1.) I would write the expression as:

$$\frac{e^x+e^{-x}}{2e^x}=\frac{1+e^{-2x}}{2}$$

Now you have a determinate form.

2.) Substituting 1 for $x$ gives you a constant divided by zero...so check the one-sided limits.

Thank you for the reponse.
For part 2. (e^x-1)/Inx is one part,sinhx is another part.They both go to infinity as x approches 1.
 
$$\sinh(1)=\frac{e-\frac{1}{e}}{2}=\frac{e^2-1}{2e}\approx1.1752011936438014$$
 
MarkFL said:
$$\sinh(1)=\frac{e-\frac{1}{e}}{2}=\frac{e^2-1}{2e}\approx1.1752011936438014$$

Thank you very much!:D How about I think it this way: (e^x-1/In(x))/(1/sinhx)
(e^x-1/In(x)) this whole thing approches negative infinity and 1/sinhx approches negative infinity as x approches 1
 
But $$\lim_{x\to1}\frac{1}{\sinh(x)}\ne-\infty$$...instead we have:

$$\lim_{x\to1}\frac{1}{\sinh(x)}=\frac{2e}{e^2-1}$$

So we know:

$$\lim_{x\to1}\left(e^x-1 \right)\sinh(x)=\frac{(e-1)\left(e^2-1 \right)}{2e}$$

which is a constant, let's call it $k$, which means the original limit may be written

$$k\lim_{x\to1}\frac{1}{\ln(x)}$$

We know the natural log function in the denominator is approaching zero, but do we have:

$$\lim_{x\to1^{-}}\frac{1}{\ln(x)}=\lim_{x\to1^{+}}\frac{1}{\ln(x)}$$ ?
 

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