Answer Processes in T-V Diagram: A, E, C Explained

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of an ideal monatomic gas as it expands from an initial volume to a larger volume through various processes depicted in a temperature-volume (T-V) diagram. Participants are tasked with identifying specific processes as isothermal, isobaric, or adiabatic, and are also exploring the implications for entropy changes.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to classify the processes based on temperature and pressure conditions. Questions about the nature of adiabatic expansion and its effects on temperature and entropy are also raised. Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of their classifications and seek clarification on the implications of their answers.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing their interpretations of the processes and questioning each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the conditions for adiabatic processes and the relationship between heat flow and entropy changes, but there is no explicit consensus on the classifications yet.

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Participants are working with a T-V diagram that is not visible to all, which may affect their ability to confirm or challenge each other's answers. There is also an indication of confusion regarding the entropy change associated with the processes.

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An Ideal monatomic gas at initial temperature [tex]T_0[/tex] (in Kelvins) expands from initial volume [tex]V_0[/tex] to volume [tex]2V_0[/tex] by each of the 5 processes indicated in the T-V diagram. In which process is the expansion a.)isothermal, b.) isobaric or c.)adiabatic? Explain your answers.
d.) In which process does the entropy of the gas decrease.

So far I've said that AE is isothermal, initial and final temperatures are the same.

AC is isobaric, Pressure remains constant

AE is adiabatic, no heat flows in or out of the sytem

Is this right?

I don't know what to do for d.)...
 

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huh? Could you restate the question.
 
wow, sorry. I don't know how that happened? I only hit reply once.

*edit* problem resolved
 
Is adiabatic expansion a heating or cooling process?
 
See edited original post and Attachment.
 
suspenc3 said:
An Ideal monatomic gas at initial temperature [tex]T_0[/tex] (in Kelvins) expands from initial volume [tex]V_0[/tex] to volume [tex]2V_0[/tex] by each of the 5 processes indicated in the T-V diagram. In which process is the expansion a.)isothermal, b.) isobaric or c.)adiabatic? Explain your answers.
d.) In which process does the entropy of the gas decrease.

So far I've said that AE is isothermal, initial and final temperatures are the same.

AC is isobaric, Pressure remains constant

AE is adiabatic, no heat flows in or out of the sytem

Is this right?
I can't see your diagram yet, but I expect there are 3 choices: a horizontal line (T = constant), a curve where T/V = constant and a curve that goes below that (lower final T) where [itex]T/V^{\gamma-1}[/itex] = constant. I think you can determine from that whether your answers are right.
I don't know what to do for d.)...
For adiabatic dS = dQ/T = 0. But for the others, which way does the heat flow?

AM
 
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Now that I see your graphic of the question, you should check your answer to c).

If volume increases and temperature remains constant, dU does not change but the system does work (dW = PdV). So what can you say about dQ? What is the condition for dQ if it is adiabatic?

AM
 

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