Any clues to the origin of this pic (cross section of teeth)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying the origin and age of a cross-section image of teeth presented in a video. Participants explore potential cultural and historical contexts, including the possibility of it being from medieval or 18th-century sources, and consider the implications of the image's details.

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  • Historical

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests the image may be Arabic or Persian and questions its age and origin based on the details visible in the cross-section.
  • Another participant proposes using Google Translate's camera feature to decode any text in the image, though they acknowledge the difficulty of identifying its source without further context.
  • A participant references the concept of a "tooth worm" from Wikipedia, indicating a historical belief related to dental health.
  • One participant claims the image is 18th-century Turkish, sharing their experience with Google Translate's limitations in identifying the language and translating the text.
  • Another participant speculates that the image could be related to the work of Sabuncuoğlu, mentioning the existence of unique handwritten copies of his medical texts and providing links to further information.
  • Participants discuss the differences in illustrations from the 18th century, suggesting that the image may not match typical representations from that time period.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the image's origin and age, with no consensus reached. Some propose it may be Turkish or Arabic, while others question the accuracy of translations and the historical context.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenges in accurately identifying the text and its implications, as well as the limitations of translation tools. There is also mention of varying styles in historical illustrations, which complicates the dating of the image.

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At [01:02], this video youtu.be/qwbIu2PzCRs?t=62 shows the following picture. I'm guessing it's either Arabic or Persian. Can someone read the text and say if it gives any clues to its age and origin?

If it's even of medieval vintage, it would be pretty remarkable, implying that they may have used some kind of lens to see the blood vessels(?) or other structures within the sectioned teeth. (Although they did embellish it with some fanciful extra details!)

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Google translate might be able to decode it. It has a camera feature on phones so you can image it and it will do the translation.

Anything beyond that is a needle in a haystack unless someone knows the books or owns the teeth.
 
So it's 18th century Turkish.

Just for fun I tried Google translate --- it says "no Turkish found".

In detect language mode it says it's Arabic and translates it as : "The Shaw nursery is suitable for a mobile phone. The suggestion of Alabgal and Al Suwal".
 
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Funny google.

It could be from this book. Not saying it is, but is still interesting.
Excerpt
To our knowledge, three handwritten copies of the Jarrāhiyyāt alKhaniyya remain. One copy is kept in the Bibliothèque Nationale de France (National Library of France) in Paris, one in the Fatih Millet Library in Istanbul, and one in the Medical History Department of Istanbul University Çapa Faculty of Medicine. Each copy is unique, and each copy has a different number of pages. These differences may be because two of the copies were written by Sabuncuoğlu himself, but one copy dates to later in the 18th century. In 1992, the Turkish medical historian Prof. İlter Uzel conducted meticulous research on the three copies and then published them in Turkish, Arabic, and English (1–4, 6, 7, 9, 11, 13–16, 18).
https://jag.journalagent.com/erciyesmedj/pdfs/EMJ_42_3_350_353.pdf
which is where the previous gets its 18th book reference , but Sharaf al-Dīn Sabuncuoğlu (1385-c.1468) .

More about Sabuncuoğlu
https://www.dailysabah.com/arts/por...-physician-and-pharmacologist-of-15th-century

Other sites I visited
18th century illustrations don't look like the one in question.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/324498512_MiratulEbdan_Fi_Tesrih-i_Azaul-Insan_First_printed_illustrated_anatomy_book_in_Ottoman-Turkish_medicine

History of dentistry in the Ottoman empire
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/278671470_History_of_Dentistry_from_the_Period_of_the_Ottoman_Empire_to_the_Republican_Period_1
 
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