Any idea on how to identify a celestial event?

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The discussion revolves around identifying a celestial event witnessed by a participant on April 24, 2011, involving a flash in the sky near the star Alderamin. Participants explore potential explanations for the event, including meteor activity, satellite reflections, and other phenomena.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes witnessing a flash in the sky that occurred twice within 20 minutes, expressing interest in identifying the event using telescopic records.
  • Another participant suggests that the flash could have been a meteor entering the atmosphere, though notes that two flashes in such close succession would be unlikely.
  • There is a mention of the possibility of an Iridium flare from satellites, but it is also deemed unlikely to repeat in the same location.
  • One participant speculates that the flashes could have been caused by a distant aircraft's landing lights, which can be visible from significant distances.
  • A later reply proposes that the flashes might be a reflection from a satellite, suggesting the use of a website to check for recent Iridium flares, contingent on the participant providing their geographic location.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the cause of the observed flashes, with multiple competing hypotheses presented, including meteor activity, satellite reflections, and aircraft lights.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the uncertainty in identifying the event due to the lack of recorded observations in the specific area at the time of the sighting.

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hi, i have a quick question...last april (04/24/11 1:22am/est to be exact) i witnessed a flash in the sky, small but visible with the naked eye...about 20 minutes later my gf and i both saw it happen again in the same location...no movement, no trail, just grew in intensity...i attached a mock-up of how it looked to us...since i know the exact date and time it happened and approximate location (during that night it was right next to alderamin), is there some way to look back through some telescopic records to find out what it was?...of course all of this is based upon the possibility of that area of the sky being looked at/recorded during the time i happened to see it...long shot, but i figured if somebody knew of a possibility, they'd be here...thanks for your time!
 

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murdochandi said:
hi, i have a quick question...last april (04/24/11 1:22am/est to be exact) i witnessed a flash in the sky, small but visible with the naked eye...about 20 minutes later my gf and i both saw it happen again in the same location...no movement, no trail, just grew in intensity...i attached a mock-up of how it looked to us...since i know the exact date and time it happened and approximate location (during that night it was right next to alderamin), is there some way to look back through some telescopic records to find out what it was?...of course all of this is based upon the possibility of that area of the sky being looked at/recorded during the time i happened to see it...long shot, but i figured if somebody knew of a possibility, they'd be here...thanks for your time!

Hi there
welcome to the PF forums :)

EST... where USA ? Australia ? somewhere else ?

alderamin ... what is that ?? never heard of it


is there some way to look back through some telescopic records to find out what it was?...of course all of this is based upon the possibility of that area of the sky being looked at/recorded during the time i happened to see it...long shot, but i figured if somebody knew of a possibility, they'd be here...thanks for your time

not likely ... it could have been many things. most likely a meteor coming into the atmosphere almost direct on to you., tho 2 on the same path so close in time would be unlikely

My other though was an iridium flare from one of the iridium satellites, but again not likely to be repeated in the same place in the sky

maybe a distant aircraft coming in your direction and you caught a couple of flashes of the landing lights as they happened to "sway' across you your visual path. Landing lights can be easily seen out to 30 or so kms and at that distance you wouldn't see the red and green navigation lights to realize it was an aircraft

cheers
Dave
 
U lucky may be it was a ufo :p
 
ah, yes, forgot about that...i'm located in central florida and here's some info about alderamin aka alpha cephei -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Cephei

the flash only happened twice in ~20 minutes so i kinda ruled out any flying objects, "U" or otherwise...the gif loops it, but it only happened twice (that i had seen)...i know there's almost no way it'll be identified, but i'd love to find out about some kind of burst in that area/time
 
murdochandi said:
ah, yes, forgot about that...i'm located in central florida and here's some info about alderamin aka alpha cephei -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Cephei

ahhhhh ... not in my sky... too far north :) tho I am well aware of Cepheid variable stars


Dave
 
Depending on the position in the sky it could have been a reflection of a satellite, like an Iridium flare. You can see a list of recent and upcoming Iridium flares on http://www.heavens-above.com/ - for the date in question thought it seems you have to change the date parameter manually in the URL to get the wanted date. If you list your geographic position (e.g. nearest larger city) where you observed the flare and the exact date (did you really mean April 24, 2011?) I (or others here) can help getting the list so you can check if a flare did occur around the time you mention.
 

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