Any physics majors feel too dumb to be majoring in physics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feelings of inadequacy and self-doubt experienced by physics majors, particularly in relation to their performance in mathematics and physics courses. Participants share their personal experiences, challenges, and coping strategies, highlighting the emotional and academic pressures associated with studying physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses discouragement over a C+ average in calculus despite hard work, contrasting it with an A in physics, which they feel they understand less.
  • Another participant shares their experience of studying physics independently without the stress of grades, emphasizing personal enjoyment over academic pressure.
  • Concerns about creativity in problem-solving are raised, with some participants feeling that they struggle to apply learned techniques in higher-level classes.
  • Several participants note that feelings of inadequacy are common among physics and math majors, suggesting that these feelings do not necessarily reflect one's ability or potential.
  • One participant mentions that calculus courses can serve as "weed out" classes, implying that poor performance does not equate to a lack of aptitude in mathematics.
  • Discussion includes the notion that different teaching methods and materials may not resonate with all students, leading to frustration in understanding physics concepts.
  • Some participants advocate for seeking help from tutors or professors to address specific difficulties in coursework.
  • There is a sentiment that perseverance and continued effort are essential, even when the material becomes increasingly challenging.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that feelings of inadequacy are common among students in physics and mathematics. However, there are multiple competing views on the causes of these feelings and the best approaches to overcoming them, leaving the discussion unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about their understanding of foundational concepts, suggesting that prior preparation may influence current performance. There is also mention of varying teaching styles and materials that may not suit every learner, contributing to feelings of inadequacy.

Who May Find This Useful

Students in physics or mathematics programs, educators looking to understand student experiences, and individuals interested in the emotional aspects of studying STEM fields.

  • #31
some_letters said:
are you sure you always have? Think back to introductory physics and calculus courses. Were you understanding most of what was taught? In my case, I can implement techniques after learning them but am left with little working understanding of what I just learned. It works just fine for now but I'm afraid that eventually, my luck will run out despite my interest and fervent effort to keep it going. Creativity isn't in me. Should I look elsewhere?

I can follow a formula, but am hard-pressed to diverge from it and apply other knowledge that I know.

My introductory physics and calculus courses were actually "harder" than my dynamics and differential equations classes, in the sense that I didn't really understand what was going on in those intro classes. Intro physics isn't really designed to teach you physics, it's designed to teach you how to think in terms of physics, how to set up equations, etc. Physics is hard - until miraculously, physics stops being hard. You'll get there yet.

And I agree with the others, don't blame your gender. Girls aren't any dumber than boys; get that out of your head right now.
 
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  • #32
I got a D in calc 3, finished my chemical engineering degree with that D. Went on later to get my PE in chemical engineering and then took a course in advanced engineering math and got an A, I basically had to reteach myself all of calc 3 and some of the other calculus material that I did not learn as well as the new material in the advanced engineering math class, it took me about 30 hrs a week to make that A in advanced engineering math but I felt like it was redemptive.

I have since back filled the main undergraduate electrical engineering classes and am going to start a masters in electrical engineering in a year or so. There are so many distractions and other problems when your 18-22 living at a university.

When your buryed in debt to get your first degree in a school with mostly guys and the girls don't give you the time of day, its not a good recipie for success.
 

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