Anybody know about it in detail?

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The discussion revolves around the details of a countersink at the end of a splined shaft, including its purpose, measurement techniques for splines, and the standard angles associated with spline design. Participants seek clarification on specific components and their applications, as well as reverse engineering considerations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the importance of a countersink at the end of a shaft/spline.
  • Another participant suggests that more information is needed regarding the specific component and its application.
  • A participant mentions standard spline angles of 30, 37.5, and 45 degrees and asks about measuring spline features, including pressure angles.
  • One reply indicates that the countersunk hole serves a purpose during manufacturing, specifically for centering the shaft, but may not have a function post-machining.
  • A participant working in R&D expresses the need for precise measurement techniques for splines and the tools required for this task.
  • Another participant argues that the dimple at the end of the shaft is useful for maintenance, particularly in automotive applications, as it facilitates easier removal of the spline from a hub or bearing assembly.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the purpose of the countersink and the dimple, with some seeing it as a manufacturing aid and others as a maintenance feature. The discussion includes multiple competing perspectives on spline measurement and design standards, indicating that no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not provided specific definitions or assumptions regarding the components discussed, and there are unresolved questions about measurement techniques and the implications of spline design choices.

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anybody know about it in detail? :)

anybody know about it in detail? :)
 
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What do you want to know about it?
 


at the end of shaft/spline there is countersink,,it is important?
 


You might want to provide a bit more information; nobody will know what component, assembly, or countersink you are talking about.

What's the part? What's it used for? Where's the countersink? Do you have a drawing or picture?
 


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another things,it is true the spline angle mostly 30,37.5 and 45 degree?
and how to measure the spline, pressure angle e.t.c...
thank you,
 


So you're asking about the countersunk hole at the end of the splined shaft? It obviously serves a purpose, otherwise the manufacturer wouldn't have bothered machining it. Is there a spigot in the mating part which interacts with this?

Spline angles are indeed usually of a standard form, with 30 and 45 degree splines being pretty conventional. Which feature of the spline do you want to measure?

The following Wikipedia article should give you the information you need about pressure angles, just think of a splined shaft as being a gear. If you're still confused just come back and ask.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressure_angle
 


thanks. I will came back,sure :)
 


That little dimple in the end of the shaft is called a centering index. It's used to center the shaft in the machine that makes it. It serves no purpose once the part is completely machined.
 
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Interesting, not seen that before.
 
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Actually I working at RnD department which is I need to do reverse engineering for spline. So I need to know exactly@proper way to measure the spline and also the tool that exactly been use to measure it.

Q_Goest..thank you, I already thinking of that but but I'm not so sure. :)
 
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The dimple DOES serve a purpose to the tech fixing your car/equipment/etc. Many times, the splines will rust or seize in the hub/bearing assembly (depending on the application, I'm mostly speaking from an automotive standpoint). When the time comes to take it apart for a repair the tech doesn't want to mushroom out the end of the shaft with a hammer (it will be more stuck) so instead, the easiest way is with an air hammer that has a pointed bit attached.

Such as this:
31BOWbtCNkL.jpg


Stick that in the dimple, and it will push out like butter.
 

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