Did You Know 1967 Was a Year of Strange Days?

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The discussion revolves around the events and cultural context of the year 1967, with a focus on the intersection of politics, religion, and societal perceptions. Participants explore various anecdotes and references, including a legal case involving a creationist geologist, while also touching on broader themes of cults and public sentiment during that time.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference a legal case involving a creationist geologist and the implications of collecting samples from national parks.
  • There is a humorous take on the political and religious aspects of the situation, with some participants finding it amusing while others express concern.
  • Participants discuss the nature of cults, specifically mentioning Kent Hovind, and express views on how such groups prey on the naive.
  • Several participants quote John Lennon, reflecting on the phrase "strange days indeed" and its relevance to the current and historical context.
  • There is a playful exchange about the accuracy of song references and the cultural significance of the phrase "stiff upper lip."

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement, particularly regarding the political implications of the discussed events and the characterization of certain individuals and groups. The discussion remains unresolved on several points, particularly around the nature of cults and the societal response to them.

Contextual Notes

Some posts reference edited content and accidental postings, indicating a potential for confusion in the thread's continuity. The interplay between humor and serious discussion about politics and religion is noted as a challenge for participants.

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http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/05/creationist-geologist-sues-us-park-service-after-it-rejects-request-collect-samples?utm_campaign=news_weekly_2017-06-30&et_rid=281473709&et_cid=1415265
 
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1oldman2 said:
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/05/creationist-geologist-sues-us-park-service-after-it-rejects-request-collect-samples?utm_campaign=news_weekly_2017-06-30&et_rid=281473709&et_cid=1415265
Well, ##4,300 \pm 76,000,000\; yrs## ... and he is right ...

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fresh_42 said:
Well, ##4,300 \pm 76,000,000\; yrs## ... and he is right ...

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The political twist is almost as amusing as the religious aspect.
 
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1oldman2 said:
The political twist is almost as amusing as the religious aspect.
The guy in the article is an Australian. Someone should warn the guards at Uluru!
 
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fresh_42 said:
how is the general rule in the US?
https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/r3/recreation/regulations/?cid=fsbdev3_022266
If on the other hand you wanted to collect specimens from a national Park/Monument such as White Sands its a little more regulated.
(Your White Sands piece doesn't happen to be http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2451.2010.00767.x/full does it?
Also an interesting article here. https://arstechnica.com/staff/2014/...-buried-in-new-mexico-before-the-atari-games/

fresh_42 said:
Does this get me on the no-fly or even travel-ban list?
Not this week but no guarantees about next week. :sorry:

fresh_42 said:
the political part is far more dangerous than funny.
I concur.

fresh_42 said:
Someone should warn the guards at Uluru!
I believe the natives have that covered.
 
For the sake of thread continuity, I should mention that post #5 was posted by accident and is quoting an edited post. sorry for any confusion. :sorry:
 
1oldman2 said:
For the sake of thread continuity, I should mention that post #5 was posted by accident and is quoting an edited post. sorry for any confusion. :sorry:
My fault. I realized a bit late that it might have been too political, which I wasn't intending. Sometimes it's a bit difficult to draw the line between making fun of politics and actually discussing it. The thread by nature sails close to the wind w.r.t. religion and politics.
 
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fresh_42 said:
My fault. I realized a bit late that it might have been too political, which I wasn't intending. Sometimes it's a bit difficult to draw the line between making fun of politics and actually discussing it. The thread by nature sails close to the wind w.r.t. religion and politics.
:ok:
 
It's a cult . Cults prey on the naive, search ' Kent Hovind '.
 
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jim hardy said:
It's a cult . Cults prey on the naive, search ' Kent Hovind '.
Agreed, After reading on Kent, it appears the naive are about all he could prey on. Strange days we are living in.
 
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1oldman2 said:
Agreed, After reading on Kent, it appears the naive are about all he could prey on. Strange days we are living in.
"Strange days, indeed"
--- John Lennon ≈1980​

hmmm... (google google google)

per wiki; "The line "Nobody told me there'd be days like these...strange days indeed...most peculiar, mama" is in contrast to the old adage "My mother told me there'd be days like this.""

My mother never told me there'd be days like these. :oldgrumpy:
But mom's are like that. Always a stiff upper lip, even when they aren't British.

hmmm... ?

wiki: Stiff upper lip
One who has a stiff upper lip displays fortitude in the face of adversity, or exercises great self-restraint in the expression of emotion. The phrase is most commonly heard as part of the idiom "keep a stiff upper lip", and has traditionally been used to describe an attribute of British people in remaining resolute and unemotional in the face of adversity. A sign of weakness is trembling of the upper lip, hence the saying keep a stiff upper lip. When a person's upper lip begins to tremble, it is one of the first signs that the person is scared or shaken by experiencing deep emotion.
 
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OmCheeto said:
"Strange days, indeed"
--- John Lennon ≈1980
Lol, wrong year, and wrong song.... :oldtongue:
1oldman2 said:
Strange days we are living in.
The strange days, were even stranger... in 1967.
 
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OmCheeto said:
My mother never told me there'd be days like these. :oldgrumpy:
My mother did, she also told me to ...
 

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