Apparent Poynting vector contradiction

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The discussion centers on the calculation of the Poynting vector for an electromagnetic wave using complex electric and magnetic field vectors. The user initially computes the cross product of the complex fields, resulting in an oscillating Poynting vector, which contradicts expected behavior. The correct approach involves taking the real parts of the fields before computing the cross product, leading to a time-averaged Poynting vector that reflects intensity rather than oscillation. The time-averaged Poynting vector is defined as <S> = (1/2) Re(E × H*), emphasizing the importance of complex conjugation in these calculations.

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Hello all,

Im trying to do a simulation of a poynting vector of an electromagnetic wave and I assume the following: At t=0 the E-field vector is (0,0,e^(-ikx)) and the H-field vector (0,e^(-ikx),0), hence orthogonal to it in vaccum, which is assumed, also the amplitudes are simplified both to 1 since only the direction is of interest.

When I calculate the cross product I get now: (-e^(-i2kx),0,0) and when I take the real part I get (-cos(2kx),0,0) which means the poynting vector oscillates in x-direction but this is wrong because it shouldn't oscillate.

My procedure was summarized: take the COMPLEX E-and H-vector, calculate the cross product and after get the real part of it...but this is obviously wrong.

if I take the real parts immediately of the 2 amplitudes and THEN take the cross product of the real amplitudes it works...I get a vector (cos(kx)^2,0,0) which also oscillates but not in 2 different directions but only in intensity which is correct.

between those 2 procedures is a contradiction but at the moment I am afraid I can't see why.
I appreciate any help.
Thank you in advance very much.
 
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You have to be careful in computing products of fields when working with complex-harmonic fields. First of all, there is nothing weird about Poynting vector oscillating, it is a bit like if you multiply two sine-functions: ##\sin\left(\omega t\right)^2=\frac{1-\cos\left(2\omega t\right)}{2}## - you get a constant + oscillating part.

Now what you were probably after is time-averaged Poynting vector. Given complex harmonic electric field (##\mathbf{E}##) and magntic field (##\mathbf{H}##), the time-averaged Poynting vector is:

##\langle \mathbf{S} \rangle = \frac{1}{2} \Re \left(\mathbf{E} \times \mathbf{H}^{\dagger}\right)##

i.e. note the complex-conjugation
 
This is a AC problem complex Poynting theorem should be applied, in which, The Poynting vector is defined as
$$\boldsymbol{S}=\frac{1}{2}\boldsymbol{E}\times\boldsymbol{H}^{*}$$
The power is,
$$ P=\frac{1}{2} \iint_{\Gamma}\boldsymbol{E}\times\boldsymbol{H}^{*}\cdot\hat{n}d\Gamma $$

##*## is complex conjugate that is important, that cannot be taken away.
 

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