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Apple introduces latest iNonsense

  1. Jan 27, 2010 #1


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    What the hell? Who would buy this thing? It's pretty much big enough to be considered a terrible laptop. Recession my $#%@%#.

    I feel like phasing iAnything users out of my life. I hate iApple for their nonsense as well. Hey look at us, we just made something that already existed to look sexy and expensive and had Bono push it and we call ourselves innovators. Idiots.
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  3. Jan 27, 2010 #2
    Personally, I think the touch screen feature that they're trying to put on everything is backwards technology. I can sit on my computer for hours using my mouse, only having to move it slightly to do everything I want. I couldn't do the same thing if I was having to hold my arm up and move my hand the entire length of the screen for every motion.

    And yeah, you're right, if I wanted a portable computer, I'd just buy a laptop. Who cares if it's thinner? I have plenty of spatial area to allow for that extra inch of thickness. I think I'll be ok.
  4. Jan 27, 2010 #3
    Actually, I would buy it. I was hoping that they would develop something like this. Their higher price is nothing compared to the time they save me not dealing with bugs of their competitors. Take their $500 price tag and divide it by your hourly consulting rate. Seems like a bargain to me.
  5. Jan 27, 2010 #4


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    I use Apple's products because they excel at meeting my needs. I have a Macbook, an iMac, and an iPhone. All three have exceeded my expectations in virtually every area. Their customer service is also unmatched.

    I, personally, don't see a use for the iPad in my own life, but I won't judge others' motivations for purchasing one.
  6. Jan 27, 2010 #5
    iPad is meant to compete with kindle over the ebook business. For folks that enjoy reading ebooks, iPad certainly exceeds kindle in alot of ways. It has more powerful processor than the iphone, so it will be able to run more complex apps.

    I would find it more comfortable to read schematics on the ipad, access servers and any web controlled devices than on a laptop.
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    I am so getting this. I would wait for Apple to release a version with better processor though.
  8. Jan 27, 2010 #7
    I agree, the name is kind of annoying as I hate how everything has 'i' in front of it, but this seems like it wouldn't be that bad to own.

    @leroy I don't see how you would attach a mouse to this and I don't know if you've every tried reading a book off a laptop screen but it's not too pleasant.
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  10. Jan 27, 2010 #9
    I read books off my computer screen all the time. I'm currently reading 21 different books.
    What's the huge difference between reading a book on a laptop and reading one on a half-laptop?
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    The iPad would be much less cumbersome to manuver and position. I like to read in positions which are not laptop-friendly. There are also situations, like in a park on the grass, where a laptop would be less desirable.
  12. Jan 27, 2010 #11


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    I sort of like the idea.
    But this "pad" has the same problem as all the others: it is too big when you are NOT using it.
    I'd like to have something that can be folded together and fits in my pocket when I am not using it, although that might have to wait until electronic paper becomes commercially viable.
  13. Jan 27, 2010 #12
    Have you ever tried reading one off the "half-laptop"?
  14. Jan 27, 2010 #13
    No, but that doesn't negate the fact that I still think reading on a computer is perfectly pleasant, since that's kinda what computers are for to begin with.
  15. Jan 27, 2010 #14
    The screen of the kindle is different from the screen of a computer. Once the screen is painted, it remains there without drawing power until the next screen is painted. Painting time is long, so animations are not displayed well. Battery life is in days, not hours. The image is much easier on the eyes than a computer screen. Since the battery life is said to be 10 hours, I assume that the iPad screen is not of this type. You can read books on a computer, but that doesn't make it an e-book reader in my opinion.
  16. Jan 27, 2010 #15
    I have a convertible tablet, works brilliantly for that purpose.
  17. Jan 27, 2010 #16
    Would it have killed them to put an SD card slot on the Ipad? Having a separate accessory to copy pictures from a digital camera is lame. Maybe they figured it would kill demand for the 32gb and 64gb models.
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    I think that it's just for women - http://failblog.org/2010/01/27/name-fail-photoshop-win/" [Broken].

    http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/ipad.jpg?w=250&h=250 [Broken]

    EDIT: Looks like this is just the start - http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/01/27/apple.ipad.reaction/" [Broken]
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  21. Jan 28, 2010 #20
    The iPad disappointed a lot of people who were expecting a revolutionary new device because the iPad is not revolutionary, it's evolutionary. It uses the same simple layout 75 million people already know how to use.

    Its built to deliver content in the form of music, movies, TV shows, and apps, which are making Apple billions, as well as print media such as newspapers, magazines, and books, which is new territory for Apple. Paying for print media though is something Apple is hoping to revive, and clearly the best way to do that is to target people who already do so but want something more convenient.

    Over half of iPhone users are over 35, so clearly having a device with a much larger screen is going to enhance the experience tremendously for their targeted demographic. ( http://techcrunchies.com/age-demographics-of-iphone-users/ )

    I'm not particularly excited by the device, I own an iphone 3g, and a macbook. As a college student the combination is perfect for me. The iPad isn't built for students, it isn't designed to take notes on, or really do anything productive. Its core purpose is to deliver content, so I won't be buying one. It also lacks a camera and therefore any augmented reality abilities, a personal interest of mine.

    I do however recognize this release as a strategic move for Apple, and a culmination of their efforts in developing a new kind of interface. This device and its successors will make Apple a lot of money.
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    You dont need a camera. If you want one you can get a bluetooth webcam, they are under 50 dollars. You can use the iPad to talk over Skype instead of using iPhone. You can take notes on this thing, or record the audio.

    I can personally see myself using this thing on a daily basis, not only taking notes but also running MatLab and a number of other tools. You can attach an external DAQ Bluetooth board and use it as an oscilloscope, as an instrument readout tool, portable network analyzer, etc

    This will replace the newspaper for you. Why even bother collecting that trash. With a regular paper you have to unfold it, get that ink on your fingers. With iPad you just view the content. For what its worth, I think Steve Jobs is genuinly excited about this thing. I bet back in the 1970's he envisioned this to be the pinnacle of success for him.

    This thing spells out the end of NetBooks. The end of Kindle. The end of Google's Android platform. Its simply a checkmate for Apple. gg.

    The only thing I notice that is a huge negative is no multitasking. That better be solved or its not looking too good. Besides 1 Ghz is kind of weak. But with all things Apple, first they release crap, then spruce it up, and eventually its a half decent design 2 years later. Oh and some say it lacks a GPS? I have an external bluetooth GPS module that runs up to a week and cost me 40 bucks. Whats the point of having an internal gps module that cant even get a reception in the car?? I just throw mine under the windshield and it picks up all the visible satellites.
    Oh yeah I heard that pun on the radio today 'iPad for women'. Thats stupid?
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    My take on the device judging by what I have heard so far is below. Overall, this device is a huge fail in my opinion. The only good thing about this device is that it will cause other manufacturers to copy/clone the tablet idea so we will see some real user friendly tablets within a few months. The idea is great, the form factor is great, the Apple take on the tablet idea is a no-sale.

    10 hour battery life
    9.7” screen
    Half inch thick
    ePub support
    Video support
    “Unlocked” for 3G

    $130 for 3G ability
    Border around screen too large
    4:3 aspect ratio

    Epic Fail:
    No SDHC card reader built-in
    Tied to iTunes
    Proprietary sync cable instead of mini USB
    No USB ports on device
    Apps from their app store only
    No direct copy/paste of files between device and computer
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  24. Jan 28, 2010 #23
    The Kindle might have a problem. It's a luxury item and the iPad does most things better, so people would be willing to pay more money.

    The netbook isn't so clear. A lot of the netbook market is driven by the $300 price.

    You have to ask how many people will be willing to pay $200 more and give up:

    • A regular keyboard.
    • A 160gb hard drive.
    • A SD Card slot.
    • A Webcam.
  25. Jan 30, 2010 #24


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  26. Jan 30, 2010 #25
    A 50% markup over the Bill of Materials is probably lower than average for most Apple products. I wouldn't be surprised if the $499 model is in short supply for a long time, while Apple concentrates on the higher margin units. I've worked on products where the BOM was only 10 to 20% of the retail price. In any case there are a lot of overhead and selling costs that needs to be added in to figure the real profit.

    The Iphone costs about $179 to make. It looks like most of the difference is in the screen.


    Of course, with an Iphone, the profit is buried in your phone bill.

    Here is a BOM I found for a Netbook. It looks like the iPad touchscreen is the major cost item.


    The thing that puzzles me most is the absence of a webcam? Maybe the CPU isn't up to handling a high quality videoconferencing session?
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