Applying to Astronomy Grad Schools: Is Coursework Necessary?

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The discussion centers on the necessity of coursework in astronomy for applicants to graduate programs in astronomy, particularly for those with a background in physics but lacking formal astronomy classes or research experience. Participants explore the implications of taking additional courses and the relevance of research experience in the application process.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the necessity of astronomy coursework, suggesting that a solid physics background may suffice and that self-study through introductory texts and journals could be beneficial.
  • Another participant shares their experience, noting that some students in their program had no prior astronomy classes and adapted quickly, implying that the transition is manageable.
  • There is a suggestion to consider programs that integrate physics and astronomy, which may alleviate concerns about lacking an astronomy background.
  • A participant expresses concern about the timing of enrolling in astronomy classes and weighs the benefits of taking an upper-division thermodynamics course instead, considering their previous performance in thermodynamics.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the necessity of astronomy coursework for graduate applications, with some advocating for its importance while others argue it may not be essential. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best course of action for the original poster.

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Participants express varying opinions on the relevance of coursework versus research experience, and there is uncertainty about how admissions committees weigh these factors. The discussion also highlights individual experiences and institutional differences in program structure.

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So I already graduated with a BS in Physics, but am considering applying to Astronomy grad schools. I don't have any coursework or research projects in it, but plan to start research with an Astro prof soon. As far as coursework, how necessary is it to have some when applying to Astro grad schools?

The nearby school where I can take undergrad Astro classes as a non-degree student is starting their spring semester this week. I think its too late for me to enroll. But they don't plan to offer any Astro classes for Fall '11 but they do offer some grad-level Physics courses. I could also take some Astro undergrad classes in Winter '12, after I submit my applications, Would that suffice?
 
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creepypasta13 said:
So I already graduated with a BS in Physics, but am considering applying to Astronomy grad schools. I don't have any coursework or research projects in it, but plan to start research with an Astro prof soon. As far as coursework, how necessary is it to have some when applying to Astro grad schools?

I don't think it's essential to have anything beyond the standard physics curriculum. You can spend a week or two going through some intro astronomy texts. and it would help to go into the journals and read up on whatever your research interests are.

You'll take the standard graduate astro classes in the first two years, and beyond that, it will be reading journal articles.
 
Some of the students studying astronomy in the physics grad program I attended had not taken any astronomy classes. They picked it up pretty fast. Have you considered trying to enroll in a school that combines the physics and astronomy programs into one department? That way you won't have to worry about your astro background, you can do a dissertation in astrophysics, and get a physics PhD (which is far more marketable than astronomy).
 
twofish-quant said:
I don't think it's essential to have anything beyond the standard physics curriculum. You can spend a week or two going through some intro astronomy texts. and it would help to go into the journals and read up on whatever your research interests are.

You'll take the standard graduate astro classes in the first two years, and beyond that, it will be reading journal articles.

Oh I see. So I guess I won't be at a disadvantage when taking the grad-level astro classes compared to the incoming students who already took undergrad astro courses

eri said:
Some of the students studying astronomy in the physics grad program I attended had not taken any astronomy classes. They picked it up pretty fast. Have you considered trying to enroll in a school that combines the physics and astronomy programs into one department? That way you won't have to worry about your astro background, you can do a dissertation in astrophysics, and get a physics PhD (which is far more marketable than astronomy).

Most of the schools I'm looking at have separate programs. Since I'm mostly interested in Astro, I think its better to apply to the Astro programs instead of Physics anyways. One school I just got admitted to for Physics already told me they won't even provide me with a TAship if I do research in Astro
I also should've asked this earlier, so I'll ask it now. Since it seems that taking an undergrad astro class isn't that essential (I was thinking of taking an upper-div Star Formation course), would it be better if I took the upper-div Thermodynamics part B course instead? I already took Thermo A at my undergrad school, and got my worst physics grade in it, which was a B. So I'd imagine getting an A in part B would sort of offset that poor grade
 
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