What undergrad topics do astronomy grad programs expect you to have taken?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the undergraduate coursework expectations for students interested in pursuing graduate programs in astronomy and astrophysics. Participants explore the relevance of specific subjects, such as differential equations and quantum mechanics, in relation to observational astrophysics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant shares that their professor advised skipping differential equations and quantum mechanics, suggesting these subjects are not essential for observational astrophysics.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about this advice, arguing that quantum mechanics is crucial for understanding observational techniques like spectroscopy and diffraction.
  • Some participants question the validity of the professor's guidance, with one suggesting that the advice may not reflect official program requirements.
  • There is a suggestion to investigate the requirements of various graduate programs to better understand what foundational courses are typically expected.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the appropriateness of skipping quantum mechanics and differential equations, with some advocating for their importance in the field, while others support the idea of focusing on alternative courses like data analysis.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the official requirements of the applied physics major and how they align with graduate program expectations. The discussion reflects differing opinions on the necessity of certain foundational courses.

Who May Find This Useful

Undergraduate students considering graduate studies in astronomy or astrophysics, academic advisors, and those interested in the curriculum of applied physics programs.

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I was speaking with my prof about the requirements for the applied physics major track offered at my school, and she said some very surprising things.
Just for context, I’m interested in pursuing observational astrophysics/astronomy in grad school later.
She said that I can skip diff equations because physicists usually only use one type with their work, and all the additional theory taught in class isn’t necessary.
She also said that I can skip quantum mechanics because it’s very theoretical and isn’t needed to pursue observational astronomy/astrophysics.
What do you all think?
Would an astro grad program care more if I took some courses in data analysis or some advanced physics labs, rather than diff eq. and quantum?
What courses would be really useful to take for an aspiring astrophysicist?
 
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That seems really weird to me - I can't imagine someone getting an applied physics degree without basic quantum and diff eq. I'm surprised he advised you to pass on quantum mechanics when so many observational techniques are the result of quantum effects (e.g., spectroscopy, diffraction gratings, etc.). I'm also surprised that diff eq isn't a prerequisite for other physics courses, like advanced mechanics.
 
astroman707 said:
She said that I can skip diff equations
astroman707 said:
She also said that I can skip quantum mechanics

Transfer.
 
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I agree that the advice to skip quantum mechanics and differential equations is really bad.

But I'm not sure a transfer is necessary since the source of the bad advice is only a prof and may not be an official adviser.
 
OP: Let me see if I understand your situation: (1) You are planning to get a BS in applied physics. (2) For this major at your school, quantum mechanics and differential equations are not required, but are optional and, hence, can be skipped. If so, I'd say the program (not just one prof giving bad advice) is screwed up, and cast my vote to transfer [at least to another major, if not another school]. Just out of curiosity, what are the required courses for your degree?
 
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Have you looked up some graduate astronomy and astrophysics programs to see what they require or recommend for incoming students? In general, graduate physics programs expect students to have taken upper-division undergraduate courses in classical mechanics, electromagnetism, quantum mechanics and thermodynamics / statistical mechanics.
 

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