Applying to universities - is math/physics degree an overkill?

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The discussion revolves around the challenges and considerations of pursuing a math/physics degree, particularly in the context of university applications. Participants share their experiences and thoughts on the workload, course requirements, and personal capabilities related to this academic path.

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  • One participant expresses concern about the difficulty of a math/physics program, noting a slower thinking process and questioning if a lower IQ would impact their ability to succeed.
  • Another participant shares their experience in a math/physics program focused on nanoscience, highlighting that after the first year, there is significant overlap between math and physics courses, which eases the workload.
  • A third participant comments on the limitations of IQ as a measure of intelligence, suggesting that pursuing math and physics should be based on interest rather than perceived ability, while cautioning that upper-division math relies heavily on proofs.
  • One participant mentions a requirement to take an English course each semester in their upcoming program, questioning if this is a common requirement in the U.S.
  • Another participant counters that not all Canadian universities require English courses, sharing their own experience of needing humanities classes instead.

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Participants express differing views on the requirements of math/physics programs and the necessity of English courses, indicating a lack of consensus on these points. There is also a divergence in opinions regarding the implications of IQ on academic success in math and physics.

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Participants mention varying requirements across universities, particularly between Canadian and U.S. institutions, and the potential differences in course loads and overlaps in math and physics curricula.

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Students considering a math/physics degree, those interested in university program requirements, and individuals exploring the relationship between personal capabilities and academic pursuits in STEM fields.

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I have been told that, if I like both math and physics then I should do a math/physics programme, and I certainly agree with that.
However, it seems like math/physic degree is a bit challenging. Especially considering the fact that my thinking process is a lot slower than anyone else. (My IQ is approxiamately 109, but having a low IQ would not deter someone from pursuing math/physics eh?) I looked at an example schedule and it seems like I have to take three math courses and two physics every semester.
Has anyone ever done a math/physics programme? (Not a double degree) How did you handle this programme?
 
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I'm in an undergraduate program that's something like a math/physics program. It's focused on nanoscience, but it essentially translates into taking a 100-120% courseload every semester with all physics/math courses (and a little chemistry thrown in too).

Honestly, it's not that bad. After first year, you get a lot of overlap between the math and physics courses, which makes them much easier. For example, in second year (which I'm currently in), you'll study 3D calculus - gradient, divergence, curl, etc - and that gets used in electrodynamics, classical mechanics, and calculus, which is three of your courses right there. Differential Equations also has a lot of overlaps.

So basically, if you enjoy mathematics, then you should be fine. The physics courses are often a contextualization of the math courses.
 
IQ is only good for determining if someone has a disability. It isn't that reliable for assessing a person's "intelligence," a word not easily defined anyway. If you want to do math and physics, do it, but be aware that math becomes very different in the upper division, with heavy reliance on proof rather than calculation. You may yet discover math isn't your cup of tea.
 
I will be starting a similar program in a months time but my university requires that I also take an English course each semester. All Canadian Universities seem to have this requirement. Is it the same in the States?
 
This is definitely not true of all Canadian universities. I am in an undergraduate math program at a mid sized Canadian university and I've never had to take an english class. I needed two semesters of any humanities class but that's the closest I've had to having to take english.
 

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