Appreciation of real analysis/abstract algebra among science professors

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The discussion revolves around the familiarity of professors in various scientific fields with advanced mathematical concepts such as real analysis, abstract algebra, and topology. It also touches on the mathematical requirements in senior-level computer science courses and the specific needs of different branches of biology, physics, and chemistry.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the percentage of physics professors familiar with real analysis, abstract algebra, and topology, and extends the inquiry to other fields such as astrophysics, theoretical biology, earth/atmospheric sciences, and chemistry.
  • Another participant asserts that biologists do not typically know real analysis or abstract algebra.
  • A different participant suggests that while they are not an expert in biology, the most complex mathematics biologists might encounter is differential equations.
  • It is noted that the necessity for differential equations may vary within biology, with fields like ecology requiring them for modeling population dynamics.
  • One participant points out that certain areas of biology, such as structural biology, may require knowledge of quantum mechanics and related mathematics, indicating a crossover with physics and chemistry.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mathematical knowledge of biologists, with some asserting a lack of familiarity with advanced mathematics while others suggest that certain subfields may require it. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall familiarity of professors in various disciplines with advanced mathematics.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the variability in mathematical requirements across different scientific fields and the potential overlap between biology and physics, but does not resolve the extent of familiarity with specific mathematical concepts among professors.

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What % of professors in, say, physics, would be familiar with real analysis/abstract algebra/topology? What about, say, the material in senior level CS courses?

How about professors in astrophysics, theoretical biology, earth/atmospheric sciences, and chemistry?
 
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I do not think biologists know real analysis or abstract algebra at all
 
I'm not an expert biologist, but I would think that the most difficult mathematics they have to be comfortable with is differential equations.
 
it really depends on what field of biology. ecology would probably need to differ eq as population dynamics are modeled by differ eqs.

although some areas of biology boarder physics or something. structural biology, for example, would involve plenty of quantum mechanics (the therefore the math needed). just look up biophysics. and a lot of protein modeling is basically theoretical physics/chemistry.
 

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