Approaching and Solving Integrals of Sine Functions: A Scientific Perspective

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The discussion revolves around the integral \(\int\frac{dx}{(sin[x]+2)^2}\), focusing on methods for approaching and solving it. Participants explore various strategies and considerations related to trigonometric integrals.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the potential substitution \(u = sin[x] + 2\) and its limitations. There is mention of using Euler's equation for rational trigonometric integrals, as well as the possibility of consulting integral tables for guidance. One participant questions whether the integral is appropriate for the pre-calculus level.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with various methods being suggested and explored. Some participants express uncertainty about the complexity of the integral and its classification as homework. Guidance has been offered regarding resources for integral formulas.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted concern about the appropriateness of the integral for the pre-calculus section, suggesting that it may exceed typical homework expectations. Participants are also considering the use of external resources for assistance.

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What would be the best method to approach this integral? And then solve it.

[tex]\int\frac{dx}{(sin[x]+2)^2}[/tex]

At first, I thought it would yield to the substitution of u = sin[x] + 2, with du = cos[x]. But this doesn't completely change the integral to one of u. Now, I don't know what else to try.
 
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BlackWyvern said:

Homework Statement


What would be the best method to approach this integral? And then solve it.

[tex]\int\frac{dx}{(sin[x]+2)^2}[/tex]

At first, I thought it would yield to the substitution of u = sin[x] + 2, with du = cos[x]. But this doesn't completely change the integral to one of u. Now, I don't know what else to try.

BlackWyvern,

Do you own one of these big Calculus books? E.g. Edwards and Penny. In the back there is an index of generalized Integrals there you will be able to find one you can use for your problem above! If not then report back to us :)
 
Sadly I do not. :P

I'm not too worried about an actual solution, but more how to find it. Recently I became aware of using Euler's equation to solve rational trigonometric integrals, but I have little practice. Maybe I can use this to turn the equation into something that will integrate by hand, who knows. I have seen a solution returned by Wolfram, and suffice to say... It was huge and not something that would evolve on paper. I'm pretty sure they only use heuristic algorithms, though, so I remain hopeful.
 
BlackWyvern said:
Sadly I do not. :P

I'm not too worried about an actual solution, but more how to find it. Recently I became aware of using Euler's equation to solve rational trigonometric integrals, but I have little practice. Maybe I can use this to turn the equation into something that will integrate by hand, who knows. I have seen a solution returned by Wolfram, and suffice to say... It was huge and not something that would evolve on paper. I'm pretty sure they only use heuristic algorithms, though, so I remain hopeful.

Look at this page here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_integrals_of_rational_functions

Can you spot an integral formula you can use to solve your integral, BlackWyvern? A simular list can be found in the back of any Calculus bible...
 
Start with [itex]u=\tan \frac{x}{2}[/itex] and prepare yourself for a lot of work.

Edit: I noticed this is in the pre-calculus section. This type of integral (without using tables) is well above the level of pre-calc. Is this really homework or is it something you're just interested in?
 
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