Approaching the problem o 1D well that changes size

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The problem involves a one-dimensional potential well that initially extends from 0 to a, which is then altered to extend from 0 to a/2. A particle of mass m is in the first excited state (n=2) within this well. The discussion centers on determining the allowed energies and eigenfunctions in the new configuration, as well as the probability of finding the particle in the ground and first excited states.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of energy levels and wave functions in the new well configuration. There are attempts to derive the coefficients for the probability of finding the particle in various states, with some questioning the normalization of the wave function after the wall is pushed inward. Others raise concerns about the implications of the change on the energy of the particle.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the mathematical relationships involved, with some participants suggesting different interpretations of the problem setup. Guidance is offered regarding the evaluation of integrals for the coefficients, but no consensus has been reached on the implications of the wall's movement on the wave function or energy levels.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem may involve assumptions about the normalization of the wave function and the treatment of the infinite potential wall introduced at a/2. There is mention of a reverse problem that could provide insights into the normalization issue.

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Homework Statement



You have a potential well, it's 1-dimensional and has a width of 0 to a. All of a sudden the wall of the well is pushed inward so that it's half as wide. Now the well is only extending from 0 to a/2.

in the well is a particle (mass m) that is in the first excited state n=2.

We want to know the following:

- What are the allowed energies and eigenfunctions in our new (smaller) infinite well?
- what is the probability of finding our particle in the ground state? The first excited state?

Homework Equations


We know the ground state of a particle (the wave function) is
## \psi_0 = \sqrt{ \frac{2}{L}} \sin \left( \frac{n \pi}{L} x \right) ## and that ##E_n = \frac{\pi^2 \hbar^2}{2mL^2}n^2##

The Attempt at a Solution


What I did here was look first at the equation for E. I can just plug in n=2 and a/2 = L and get

E_2 = \frac{16 \pi^2 \hbar^2}{m}, which tells me the n=2 energy.

So I want to know th probability of the ground state, though. For that I need the series expansion

## \sum c_n \psi_n ##

where

## c_n = \sqrt{ \frac{2}{a}} \int_0^{\frac{a}{2}} \sin \left(\frac{n\pi x}{a} \right) \sqrt{ \frac{2}{L}} \sin \left(\frac{n\pi x}{L}\right) dx##

and making sure that I plug in a/2 for L:
## c_n = \sqrt{ \frac{2}{a}} \int_0^{\frac{a}{2}} \sin \left(\frac{n\pi x}{a} \right) \sqrt{ \frac{4}{a}} \sin \left(\frac{2 n\pi x}{a}\right) dx##
pull out the constants:
## c_n = \frac{\sqrt{8}}{a} \int_0^{\frac{a}{2}} \sin \left(\frac{n\pi x}{a} \right) \sin \left(\frac{2 n\pi x}{a}\right) dx##

and we have here a pretty well-behaved function. A trig substitution / identity gives me:
## c_n = \frac{\sqrt{8}}{a} \int_0^{\frac{a}{2}} \frac{1}{2} \left[\cos \left(\frac{n\pi}{a}-\frac{2 n\pi}{a} x \right) -\cos \left(\frac{n\pi}{a}+\frac{2 n\pi}{a} x \right) \right] dx##
##= \frac{\sqrt{8}}{2a} \int_0^{\frac{a}{2}} \cos \left(\frac{ n\pi}{a} x \right) -\cos \left(\frac{3 n\pi}{a} x \right) dx##
##= \frac{\sqrt{8}}{2a} \left[ -\frac{a \sin \left(\frac{ n\pi}{a} x \right)}{n\pi} -\frac{ a \sin \left(\frac{3 n\pi}{a} x \right)}{3n\pi} \right]^{\frac{a}{2}}_0 ##
##= \frac{\sqrt{8}}{2a} \left[ -\frac{a \sin \left(\frac{ n\pi}{2} \right)}{n\pi} -\frac{ a \sin \left(\frac{3 n\pi}{2} \right)}{3n\pi}\right] = -\frac{\sqrt{8}}{2n\pi} \left[ \sin \left(\frac{ n\pi}{2} \right) +\frac{ \sin \left(\frac{3n\pi}{2} \right)}{3}\right] ##

So I see that the sine terms are
n=1 --> 2/3
n=3 --> -2/3
n=5 --> 2/3

and so on. So I want to know the probability that the particle is in the first excited state, n=2. It turns out that it can't be there, because ##c_n## is zero wherever n is even. But at n=1 ##(c_1)^2 = \frac{8}{4\pi^2}\frac{4}{9} = \frac{32}{36\pi^2}##. That's my probability for that particular state. At ##(c_3)^2 = \frac{8}{36\pi^2}\frac{4}{9} = \frac{32}{324\pi^2}##, et cetera.

Ayhow I am checking to see if I approached this thing right, and didn't make a dumb mistake.
 
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in the well is a particle (mass m) that is in the first excited state n=2.
This tells you the wave function ##\psi##. There is a 2 in there, but no longer an n.
To get the ##c_{n'}## you need to evaluate ##\int \psi^*_{n'}\; \psi##.

I have a problem with this exercise, because pushing in the wall can't leave the wave function as it was: it has to remain normalized. And I think there's no telling what that does to the energy of the particle.

(The reverse problem allows one to extend the wave function with 0 in the 'new' range, thus avoiding this renormalization issue)
 
As I recall the problem was stated as an infinite potential is inserted at a/2, if that helps, and the idea was w could just ignore the part of the well on the right. But if I hear you right I should set up \int \psi^*_n' \psi [\itex] as ##\int \psi^*_n' \psi_2 ## ?
 
BvU said:
This tells you the wave function ##\psi##. There is a 2 in there, but no longer an n.
To get the ##c_{n'}## you need to evaluate ##\int \psi^*_{n'}\; \psi##.

I have a problem with this exercise, because pushing in the wall can't leave the wave function as it was: it has to remain normalized. And I think there's no telling what that does to the energy of the particle.

(The reverse problem allows one to extend the wave function with 0 in the 'new' range, thus avoiding this renormalization issue)

As I recall the problem was stated as an infinite potential is inserted at a/2, if that helps, and the idea was w could just ignore the part of the well on the right. But if I hear you right I should set up \int \psi^*_n' \psi [\itex] as ##\int \psi^*_{n'} \psi_2 ## ? And then the issue is figuring out what n' is? (Or can I go with 1 since the well is half-size, and the wave is going to be cut in half -- foe purposes of this problem I don't think we had to renormalize).
 
i just tried getting the dangd Latex to work and it's buggy today. but i think you ought to be able to see what i was asking.
 
Yeah, you need curly brackets around {n'} :)

Cutting the wave function in half makes the probablility the particle is somewhere equal to one half, which I find hard to swallow.
Otherwise, yes, I agree: that's what I tried to bring across. n (for the full width well) is fixed to 2 by the exercise statement.
 

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