Approaching vehicles with acceleration

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The problem involves two vehicles, A and B, approaching each other, with vehicle A moving at a constant velocity and vehicle B accelerating from an initial velocity. The goal is to determine the time at which they will meet, given their initial conditions and distance apart.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formulation of the problem as a quadratic equation in terms of time, with attempts to simplify and rearrange the equation to solve for time. Questions arise regarding the presence of terms involving both ##t## and ##\frac{1}{t}##, and whether the quadratic formula can be applied.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the quadratic nature of the equation, with some participants confirming the validity of using the quadratic formula. Clarifications are made regarding the coefficients in the quadratic equation, and there is a suggestion to consider different scenarios, such as the implications of vehicle A being at rest.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential confusion arising from the structure of the equation and the need to ensure the correct interpretation of parameters when applying the quadratic formula. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the setup and assumptions of the problem.

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Homework Statement


Two vehicles, A and B, are approaching each other. Vehicle A has a constant velocity of ##v_A##. Vehicle B has a constant acceleration ##a## with an initial velocity of ##v_B##. The starting distance at ##t=0## between them is ##D##.

Is there a way to solve at what time ##t## they'd meet?

Homework Equations



##D = v_At + v_Bt + \frac{1}{2} \cdot a \cdot t^2##

The Attempt at a Solution


I deduced the equation above but I can't find a way to solve for t. Simplifying gives:

##\frac{D}{t} = v_A + v_B + \frac{1}{2} \cdot a \cdot t##

Is there a way to solve for t without plotting these two equations?
 
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JohnnyGui said:

Homework Statement


Two vehicles, A and B, are approaching each other. Vehicle A has a constant velocity of ##v_A##. Vehicle B has a constant acceleration ##a## with an initial velocity of ##v_B##. The starting distance at ##t=0## between them is ##D##.

Is there a way to solve at what time ##t## they'd meet?

Homework Equations



##D = v_At + v_Bt + \frac{1}{2} \cdot a \cdot t^2##

The Attempt at a Solution


I deduced the equation above but I can't find a way to solve for t. Simplifying gives:

##\frac{D}{t} = v_A + v_B + \frac{1}{2} \cdot a \cdot t##

Is there a way to solve for t without plotting these two equations?

It is just a quadratic equation in ##t##, so is easily solved using the standard quadratic-solution formulas.
 
Your equation looks very like a quadratic in ##t## to me!
 
PeroK said:
Your equation looks very like a quadratic in ttt to me!

Ray Vickson said:
It is just a quadratic equation in ttt, so is easily solved using the standard quadratic-solution formulas.

Ah, for some reason I thought this wasn't possible because there are two parameters with either a ##t## or a ##\frac{1}{t}## in it. But after looking at it I noticed it could be written as:

##\frac{1}{2} \cdot at^2 + (v_A + v_B)t - D = 0##

And then use the abc-formula in which ##a=\frac{1}{2}\cdot a## and ##b=(v_A + v_B)## and ##c = D##. Is this correct?
 
JohnnyGui said:
Ah, for some reason I thought this wasn't possible because there are two parameters with either a ##t## or a ##\frac{1}{t}## in it. But after looking at it I noticed it could be written as:

##\frac{1}{2} \cdot at^2 + (v_A + v_B)t - D = 0##

And then use the abc-formula in which ##a=\frac{1}{2}\cdot a## and ##b=(v_A + v_B)## and ##c = D##. Is this correct?

You already had the quadratic in section 2 of your original post.

I guess you mean ##c = -D##?

You may like to think what difference it makes if vehicle A is at rest and vehicle B is initially moving at the combined speed ##v_a + v_b##.
 
PeroK said:
You already had the quadratic in section 2 of your original post.

I guess you mean ##c = -D##?

You may like to think what difference it makes if vehicle A is at rest and vehicle B is initially moving at the combined speed ##v_a + v_b##.
Apologies, I did mean ##c = -D##. I take it you mean that I could just put the equation in section 2 in parentheses? My initial target was to use the abc-formula to only give the positive solution of ##t##.
 

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