Approximate value of ##E=1/2! +1/3!+1/4!+... ##

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The discussion centers on approximating the value of E using inequalities, specifically the series expansion of e. Participants emphasize the need to show effort in solving the math test problem, with suggestions to use the convexity of the logarithm of the Gamma function and to calculate bounds by summing terms of the series. It is noted that E is greater than 0.5 and approaches 0.7 as more terms are added, with various bounds being discussed. The use of geometric progressions to refine upper and lower bounds is also mentioned, along with concerns about roundoff errors in calculations. Ultimately, the conversation highlights different methods to approximate E while acknowledging the limitations of manual calculations.
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Homework Statement
##n\in \mathbb{Z^+}## and given ##1/n! > 1/(n+1)! +1/(n+2)!+...##
find the approximate value of ##E=1/2! +1/3!+1/4!+... ##
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##n\in \mathbb{Z^+}## and if we know ##1/n! > 1/(n+1)! +1/(n+2)!+...##
find the approximate value of ##E=1/2! +1/3!+1/4!+... ##
I know ##1+1/1!+1/2!+1/3!+...=e=2,71.. ## but I have to find approximate value of E using inequality.
 
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littlemathquark said:
but I have to find
Is this for schoolwork?
 
Yes, it's in a math test.
 
Then you need to show more effort. We do not take your math tests for you.
 
The following are the test choices
0,5 0,6 0,7 0,8 0,9
 
berkeman said:
Then you need to show more effort. We do not take your math tests for you.
I know but I need an idea.
 
littlemathquark said:
I know but I need an idea.
Idea: Bohr-Mollerup uses the convexity of the logarithm of ##\Gamma(x).##
 
Thank you but I dont know that theorem but I found this idea
İt's clear E>0,5

E<1/2! +1/2!
E<(1/2! +1/3!)+1/3!
E<(1/2!+1/3! +1/4!)+1/4!
E<(1/2!+1/3! +1/4!+1/5!)+1/5!
 
E<(1/2!) +1/2!=1 and added number 1/2!=0,5
E<(1/2! +1/3!)+1/3!=5/6=0,83 and added number 1/3!=0,16
E<(1/2!+1/3! +1/4!)+1/4!=3/4=0,75 and added number 1/4!=0,04

It can be said that after this stage, since the numbers added will be very small, the number E approaches 0.7 by decreasing.
 
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WWGD said:
Well, ##1/2^n## is a lower bound for ##n \geq 1##, though hardly a tight one. Edit: Thus ## 1+1/2+...+1/2^n+...=2*## would be a lower bound, albeit obviously not too tight.

*Converging to, as n grows.
İs ##1/2^n## is a lower bound or upper bound?
 
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littlemathquark said:
İs ##1/2^n## is a lower bound or upper bound?
Edit: My bad, I realize I misread; let me delete it. This is my idea: As a loweer bound, add the first 10 terms ##1+(1/2!)+...+(1/10!)## and then use a geometric progression starting with ##(1/11!)## and common ratio ##(1/11)##,

Then we have the bound ##1+(1/2!)+....+(1/10!)+ (1/39916800)[\frac{1}{1-(1/11)}##.]
 
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WWGD said:
My bad, I realize I misread; let me delete it. This is my idea: As an upper bound, add the first 10 terms ##1+(1/2!)+...+(1/10!)## and then use a geometric progression starting with ##(1/11!)## and common ratio ##(1/11)##,

Then we have the bound ##1+(1/2!)+....+(1/10!)+ (1/39916800)[\frac{1}{1-(1/11)}##.]
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the given inequality is an upper bound for the error in approximating E by its first n-1 terms.

Unfortunately, use of a small hand held calculator also introduced, for me, roundoff error. My computation of the first 12 terms gave me .718281829, which should have been an underestimate, with error less than 1/13!, but is obviously an overestimate in the last digit.
 
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