Are all wave functions energy-eigenstates?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of wave functions in quantum mechanics, specifically whether all wave functions can be classified as energy eigenstates. Participants explore the definitions and properties of wave functions, energy eigenstates, and the implications of superposition in quantum systems.

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  • Some participants note that while energy eigenstates are solutions to the time-independent Schrödinger equation, not all allowed wave functions are energy eigenstates.
  • It is proposed that any allowed wave function can be expressed as a linear combination of energy eigenstates, but this does not imply that the wave function itself is an energy eigenstate.
  • One participant emphasizes that energy eigenstates serve as a tool for solving the time evolution of wave functions, but other methods exist for solving quantum problems.
  • Another participant points out that position eigenstates of a free particle are not energy eigenstates, as they are unstable and spread over time.
  • There is mention of the principle of superposition, indicating that wave functions can also be expressed in terms of position, momentum, or spin eigenstates.
  • A note is made that non-square-integrable states may also be allowable in certain potentials, such as those allowing for scattering states.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on whether all wave functions can be classified as energy eigenstates. Multiple competing views remain regarding the definitions and implications of wave functions and energy eigenstates.

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Some statements depend on specific definitions of allowed wave functions and the context of the quantum systems being discussed. The discussion includes various assumptions about the nature of wave functions and their relationships to energy eigenstates.

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So I was reading this http://www.oberlin.edu/physics/dstyer/TeachQM/misconnzz.pdf, a list of common misconceptions students have after an intro course in QM.

I'm aware that energy eigenstates are the wave functions at "time = zero" and thus do not completely describe the system. However, it is correct that any wave function is a solution to the time independent Schroedinger equation (also known as the energy-operator).. Right?
 
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Any continuously differentiable and square-integrable function is an allowed wavefunction of a quantum system. The energy eigenstates (solutions of the time-independent SE) are states that have a definite value of the total energy and that have time-independent square modulus. Not all allowed wavefunctions are energy eigenstates, but it is possible to write any allowed state as a linear combination of energy eigenstates (or a linear combination of the eigenstates of any hermitian operator).
 
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Ah yes, silly me. Obviously a wave function must be a linear combo of energy eigenstates, due to the Schroedinger equation being a linear PDF. But even though a linear combo of energy eigenstates ##\Psi = \Sigma \psi_i## is a solutions to the indepedent Schroedinger equation, ##\Psi## itself is not an eigenstate.

OK, thanks.
 
Breaking the problem down to energy eigenstates is simply a way of solving for the time evolution of the wave function. This is because we know how an eigenstate evolves in time: ##\psi_n (x,t)=\psi_n(x)e^{-iE_n t/\hbar}##.

But we need not solve the problem in this fashion, there are other ways of solving this problem. Therefore, the eigenstates of the Hamiltonian are just a tool. One could, for example, always express the wave function as linear combinations of the quantum harmonic oscillator energy eigenfunctions, the Hermite polynomials, even if the Hamiltonian is not for the harmonic oscillator. This is because those sets of polynomials are complete. It's just, for the case where the Hamiltonian is not the harmonic oscillator, the time evolution of your basis states are no longer trivial.
 
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Nikitin said:
Ah yes, silly me. Obviously a wave function must be a linear combo of energy eigenstates,

Or position eigenstates, or momentum eigenstates, or spin eigenstates etc etc, and all at the same time - the principle of superposition at work for pure states ie they form a vector space.

But then we have non pure states that are different again - they are linear operators.

But to return to the original question a position eigenstate of a free particle is not in an energy eigenstate - its unstable and spreads - but is not in an energy eigenstate.

Thanks
Bill
 
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Nikitin said:
I'm aware that energy eigenstates are the wave functions at "time = zero" and thus do not completely describe the system.

Rather, the wave function at t = 0 can be expressed as some linear superposition of eigenstates.

hilbert2 said:
Any continuously differentiable and square-integrable function is an allowed wavefunction of a quantum system.

(And just a note that if you consider potentials that allow for scattering states, non-square-integrable states are allowable too.)
 
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