Are Electrically Charged Fluids Safe for Flies to Consume?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the safety of electrically charged fluids for flies, exploring the properties of charged fluids, their interaction with electric fields, and the potential effects on flies consuming these fluids. The scope includes theoretical considerations and exploratory reasoning regarding electrical charge and biological implications.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the existence of electrically charged fluids and their safety for flies to consume.
  • Another participant notes that any charged fluid will discharge once grounded, implying a potential risk to the fly.
  • A different participant suggests an experimental setup where flies are given a fluid in varying electric field environments to observe effects.
  • It is mentioned that no liquid can hold a monopole charge, and the behavior of charges in fluids is discussed, particularly in relation to static electricity and the conductivity of the fly.
  • One participant elaborates on the dynamics of charge distribution in fluids and the implications for a fly's exposure to charged fluids, emphasizing the fly's conductive nature as an electrolyte.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the properties of charged fluids and their implications for flies, with no consensus reached on the safety or effects of such fluids.

Contextual Notes

The discussion involves assumptions about the behavior of electric charges in fluids and the specific conditions under which flies might interact with these fluids, which remain unresolved.

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Can anyone tell me some fluids that are electrically charged? And if it would be safe for, let's say, a fly to consume?
 
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Any charged fluid will discharge once grounded.
 


I wanted to give some flies some fluid, like water or something, then give them the same fluid, but this group will be in an environment that has a different electric field.
 


Indeed - no liquid has the property of holding a monopole charge.

Note that a non-grounded fluid and non-grounded fly may limit the amount of charge to be transferred. As is seen with static electricity. The capacitance of even a man is relatively small, therefore a man can receive a spark with quite high tension but due to very small transferred charge suffer little harm.

In any fluid charged with static electricity, the charges would drift near surface. (In an insulating solid, charge carriers might be trapped in the interior). They would therefore still be available to shock the fly. Yet if the fluid is a poorly conductive one, the fly would be grounded to a small piece of surface where it lands, and it would take time for charges in the rest of the surface to drift there.

The fly itself, being an electrolyte aqueous based being, is a relatively good conductor.
 

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