Are functions a subset of equations?

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The discussion revolves around the distinctions and relationships between functions and equations, exploring their definitions, characteristics, and how they can be represented graphically. Participants examine whether functions can be considered a subset of equations and the implications of various mathematical expressions.

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  • Some participants propose that functions are mappings from one set to another, where each input corresponds to a single output, while equations merely express the equality between two expressions.
  • Others argue that certain equations, like "x - y = 0," can also be interpreted as functions, suggesting that x is a function of y and vice versa.
  • One participant clarifies that an equation states that two "things" are equal, while a function transforms a given input into an output.
  • Another viewpoint emphasizes that equations can be seen as static statements, whereas functions are interactive mappings.
  • Some participants assert that "f(x) = x" is an identity rather than an equation, indicating it defines function values rather than the function itself.
  • There is a discussion about whether "f(x) = mx + b" represents a function expressed as an equation, with some agreeing that it specifies a function using an equation.
  • One participant distinguishes between equations and relations, noting that the set of ordered pairs satisfying an equation can form a relation, and under certain conditions, this relation can be a function.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of functions and equations, with no consensus reached on whether functions can be classified as a subset of equations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the definitions and interpretations of specific mathematical expressions.

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Some limitations include the dependence on definitions of functions and equations, as well as the varying interpretations of mathematical expressions in different contexts.

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I read a few posts about the matter but they seemed to contradict each other. So what are the differences between a function and an equation? Furthermore; what explains the fact the some of them are graphed the same even though they are not the same?

I get that functions are defined as mappings from one set to another with the restriction that one input must only map to one output. But then what are equations?

One of the explanations I read was that functions output a value for every input and equations only show the relationship between variables. But then the examples confused me because "f(x) = x" was said to be a function and "x - y = 0" was said to be an equation. But can't "x - y = 0" be viewed as the function of x and y such that any input outputs zero? I mean, there are such things as constant functions, right?
 
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I would say that x-y=0 can be written as a function. And given that relationship, x is a function of y and y is a function of x.
 
An equation is simply an expression in which you state that two "things" are equal, like the expression a=b in which you state that a is equal to b. In the equation f(x)=x, f(x) is notation for "the value to which x is mapped by the function f", so the expression simply says "the value that function f maps x to is equal to x".
 
I think a distinction would be the following:

1 = 1
1 = 2*7 - 13

are equations (they state the equality between the left side and the right side) but you cannot really interpret them as functions, since there is nothing mapped into something else.

the exponential function is a mapping from R to R which gives e^x as an output when given x as input.
So a function does not state the equality between two things, but rather "transforms" a given input in some way

To sum up, I see equations as more "static", while functions are "interactive", in some way...
 
Boorglar said:
I think a distinction would be the following:

1 = 1
1 = 2*7 - 13

are equations (they state the equality between the left side and the right side) but you cannot really interpret them as functions, since there is nothing mapped into something else.

the exponential function is a mapping from R to R which gives e^x as an output when given x as input.
So a function does not state the equality between two things, but rather "transforms" a given input in some way

To sum up, I see equations as more "static", while functions are "interactive", in some way...
Or maps each element in the input set to an element in the output set, a function is just simply that mapping.

When you mention f(x) you are referring to an element in the output set; x is an element in the input set and f(x) is the element in the output set to which the function f maps x.
 
Short answer:
f(x)=x is an IDENTITY, not an equation, holding true for every choice of x.
It simply defines the function VALUES, and is not the function itself.
 
But then what are equations?

Equality is an equivalence relation defined on a set. An equation is then just a statement that two members of a set are equal. A function is something else entirely, being a mapping between sets.
 
arildno said:
Short answer:
f(x)=x is an IDENTITY, not an equation, holding true for every choice of x.
It simply defines the function VALUES, and is not the function itself.

The statement f(x)=x is an equation. It is stating that f(x) is equal to x. It is a statement of equality between f(x) and x and thus an equation.

(the function f defined by this equation is the identity function, often called the identity because it is a mapping of every element to itself)
 
Does that mean that something like "f(x) = mx + b" is a function being expressed as an equation?
 
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V0ODO0CH1LD said:
Does that mean that something like "f(x) = mx + b" is a function being expressed as an equation?

I would say that it is a function being specified using an equation.

To make the distinction a bit more concrete...

x^2 + y^2 = 1 is an equation.

The set of ordered pairs (x,y) that satisfies that equation is a relation.

The set of ordered pairs (x,y) that satisfies that equation and has y >= 0 is a relation that is the graph of a function. [By some definitions, such a relation _is_ a function].

f(x) = sqrt(1-x^2) is a formulaic specification of that function.
 

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